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though fleeting spirit is a serious force over 5 what with the fillies and age allowance I struggle to envisage her beating the likes Sakhee’s secret and Takeover target over 6
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Impressive though she was, beating a short runner like Desert Lord, and a gp3 horse (Borderlescott) that needs a stiffer test entitles her to respect, but nothing more than that.
The draw biases for large fields at Ascot would put me off backing anything ante-post. Was this not the case, i would agree 5/1 is an attractive price.
What draw bias exists on the straight course at Ascot please? Do we want to be high, middle or low?
I’ll let you know 15 minutes before the Kings Stand, and my bet on the race will be timed accordingly.
Always tempting to get over-attached to horses that have been successfully followed from an early stage, but i think this one is an absolute star.
Very tempted by the AP prices and is the draw really such a factor at Ascot? And is the race a confirmed target?
She hardly needed the rail on Saturday did she?
Couldnt be in better hands too..
Always tempting to get over-attached to horses that have been successfully followed from an early stage
How are Katchit and Sir Percy by the way?
As it happens DJ, I only backed Sir Percy once after the Derby
Katchit is a true champion of course …
It is a difficult one isnt it? I would defy even the hardest nosed punter to not to get attached to certain horses that display qualities that are admired (and are underestimated elsewhere).
Gouing back to the sprinting division…i think its lacked a real quality performer for some time now.
With some of the juveniles we have seen out this season, I don’t think the sprinting division has ever (well, in the last few years at least) looked so promising.
I had almost convinced myself that Orizaba was the two-year-old everyone had to aim for, but after seeing Brae Hill uphold Prolific’s debut form in no uncertain terms yesterday I’m not so sure.
a short runner like Desert Lord
Sorry, I can’t have that. Desert Lord won a valuable and competitive 20-runner Newmarket handicap over 7f as a four-year-old and even has reasonable form at a mile. He’s no short runner.
I don’t think there’s much in the draw at the new Ascot and I don’t see it being a problem for this filly with her hold-up style. I agree that even current quotes of 4/1 are more than fair, especially as there can’t be a Rule 4! The King’s Stand is over 5f btw gmorrison, welcome to our humble Forum!
Disagree regarding draw at the new Ascot –
Takeover Targets Kings Stand he tacked right over from draw 17 to race with the low drawn horses and sure enough the low drawn horses dominated.
Miss Andretti’s win – The high drawn horses dominated.
Dandy Man got the rough end of the stick in both races, for me the draw will, as usual, be very much a significant factor.
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a short runner like Desert Lord
Sorry, I can’t have that. Desert Lord won a valuable and competitive 20-runner Newmarket handicap over 7f as a four-year-old and even has reasonable form at a mile. He’s no short runner.
Gus
Put him in another one off an OR of 82 and he might well win a 2nd, but we’re talking about form appropriate to winning a gp1 race, and there is no denying that all DL’s best form is over sharp 5’s on faster ground. Every major prize he has contested on anything else he has failed to stay,
PC
There is no draw bias on Ascot’s straight course. Races almost invariably favour those drawn nearest the pace.
I was far from convinced in both races that the draw made much diffrence- Dandy Man has hardly shown himself to have been unlucky since. If there is a significant bias they can track the pace with her anyway- I predict the draw won’t beat this filly.
Would still have to disagree, especially about 2006 – the lows had it in nearly every large field race that year and i remember quite a debate about AP punting at Ascot being destroyed unless something was done. Something obviously was done as the highs had it the following year.
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