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- June 4, 2017 at 13:50 #1303469
I have done Senga at 15/8 today.
I feel she can get back on track on the better going today.
Stablemate Monroe Bay also flopped on the ground that last weekend and she has won since.
Without that blip in the French Guineas I would have thought Senga would be short today.
1.55 Chantilly Senga 15/8Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
June 5, 2017 at 13:32 #1303564Awful ride on Senga yesterday. Held up right at the back in a very slowly run race. The outsider kicked off the front and beat the lot of the. Senga ran on well to be a narrow third but simply never got put into a pedestrian race. A classic numb nuts ride.
Anyway I am going with Nine Below Zero at Windsor this evening.
Ralph Beckett’s horse was slowly and awkwardly away last time. He then ran green, pulled hard and had his head flailing around a few times. Despite that fact he ended up coming through to be a nice winner.
I expect above average improvement if he has learned from that and I think he can concede the 6 lbs against these tonight.
7/4 was bigger than I had anticipated.
5.40 Windsor Nine Below Zero 7/4
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June 5, 2017 at 23:34 #1303611Nine Below Zero conceded the 6 lbs and powered away to win by more than three lengths. He got away a lot better this time but was still just a shade green. I think he might come forward a bit yet. He came into this rated 85 and I feel he could be quite smart. The ATR report said he was hard ridden to win, the Racing Post report states that he won readily.

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June 6, 2017 at 12:06 #1303646Some nice competitive races this weekend.
I was drawn to the John Of Gaunt Stakes at Haydock on what looks a good card.
Home Of The Brave took the eye right away because he won the race last season. He went on to acquit himself well in better races later and he made a winning start this year.
Hugo Palmer was right out of sorts for a while but is back in the winners now.
I am sure Home Of The Brave will go close and 4/1 looked sure to beat SP for my money anyway.
4.05 Haydock Saturday Home Of The Brave 4/1
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June 7, 2017 at 03:28 #1303699Looking at Saturday’s cards I see that William Jarvis’s Juanito Chico is entered and jocked up at Newmarket.
The Pour Moi gelding ran and won at Epsom last week and did so in the style of a potential improver.
His previous run had seen him looking like making a winning move before he got caught and finished a very narrow third. The mile that day just looked a bit far and he was dropped to 7F at Epsom. The Epsom race saw him get a couple of bumps early on and as the jockey came with a run he couldn’t quite get out and in the end he had to switch outside to make a challenge. The horse responded well to score with something in hand and he looked like he could follow up next time.
Rated 80 last time, I assume he will have a new mark or a penalty. Either way, he looks to have an excellent chance of following up at 7F again, with De Sousa jocked up once more, and I am on at 9/2.
2.30 Newmarket Saturday Juanito Chico 9/2
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June 7, 2017 at 20:32 #1303736Tomorrow at Haydock sees a horse who was badly hampered last time trying to get back on the winning trail.
Ralph Beckett is in pretty good form at the moment and his entry in the 2.10 Haydock, Brimham Rocks must hold a good chance of defying top weight in a fairly modest affair.
Brimham Rocks is a big gelding by Fastnet Rock and he showed nothing special at 2yo. His third run was an 8th place to Tartini and that earned him a handicap mark of 62.
Making his handicap debut at Wolverhampton he stayed on well to run out a decent winner in a class 5 race. He went up 7 lbs for that win and contested a class 4 York race next time. Only 6th there, he was badly hampered and I feel he is capable of bouncing back at Haydock, dropped back to class 5 in a race where few appeal.
I had pencilled Brimham Rocks in at about 13/8 or 6/4 for this race and I think 9/4 is worthy of a bet.
Looking at the opposition, the only other horse to win last time was American Craftsman, but he only won a class 6 race at Beverley that day and he is up 6 lbs in the handicap in this better grade.
Brimham Rocks is still on 69 and with De Sousa on board I feel he is a good bet at 9/4 with a little touch of quality and the physical scope to progress against fairly moderate opponents.
2.10 Haycock Thursday Brimham Rocks 9/4
I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t go very close here at the least.
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June 8, 2017 at 11:50 #1303766Home Of The Brave is out of the John Of Gaunt. I don’t know why.
It leaves Breton Rock favourite in a moderate enough looking contest. Breton Rock is more of a horse for placing at big odds. The times I have tried him when he’s fancied, he always seems to fail.
I won’t be betting anything else, I felt Palmer’s horse had an excellent chance of winning the race again but it’s not to be.
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June 8, 2017 at 12:57 #1303768Agree Stevie. Can’t understand why they took HMOTB out. Have a look at Mitchum Swagger with Moore on board. They think an awful lot of this horse.
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June 8, 2017 at 14:53 #1303773Tomorrow at Haydock sees a horse who was badly hampered last time trying to get back on the winning trail.
Ralph Beckett is in pretty good form at the moment and his entry in the 2.10 Haydock, Brimham Rocks must hold a good chance of defying top weight in a fairly modest affair.
Brimham Rocks is a big gelding by Fastnet Rock and he showed nothing special at 2yo. His third run was an 8th place to Tartini and that earned him a handicap mark of 62.
Making his handicap debut at Wolverhampton he stayed on well to run out a decent winner in a class 5 race. He went up 7 lbs for that win and contested a class 4 York race next time. Only 6th there, he was badly hampered and I feel he is capable of bouncing back at Haydock, dropped back to class 5 in a race where few appeal.
I had pencilled Brimham Rocks in at about 13/8 or 6/4 for this race and I think 9/4 is worthy of a bet.
Looking at the opposition, the only other horse to win last time was American Craftsman, but he only won a class 6 race at Beverley that day and he is up 6 lbs in the handicap in this better grade.
Brimham Rocks is still on 69 and with De Sousa on board I feel he is a good bet at 9/4 with a little touch of quality and the physical scope to progress against fairly moderate opponents.
2.10 Haycock Thursday Brimham Rocks 9/4
I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t go very close here at the least.
Good work Steve. I was going to follow you in but then got really busy this morning and forgot…
June 8, 2017 at 15:33 #1303774Agree Stevie. Can’t understand why they took HMOTB out. Have a look at Mitchum Swagger with Moore on board. They think an awful lot of this horse.
I thought Mitchum Swagger might make up into a decent horse Joni but I gave up on him. He has only won his maiden and a handicap to date and I worry when horses finish second in close finishes in their career.
Mitchum Swagger has lost by a head 3 times and a neck once, all when reasonably well fancied. He’s just disappointed too often for me but good luck with him if you are going in. The race has lost its appeal to me.
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June 8, 2017 at 15:34 #1303775Tomorrow at Haydock sees a horse who was badly hampered last time trying to get back on the winning trail.
Ralph Beckett is in pretty good form at the moment and his entry in the 2.10 Haydock, Brimham Rocks must hold a good chance of defying top weight in a fairly modest affair.
Brimham Rocks is a big gelding by Fastnet Rock and he showed nothing special at 2yo. His third run was an 8th place to Tartini and that earned him a handicap mark of 62.
Making his handicap debut at Wolverhampton he stayed on well to run out a decent winner in a class 5 race. He went up 7 lbs for that win and contested a class 4 York race next time. Only 6th there, he was badly hampered and I feel he is capable of bouncing back at Haydock, dropped back to class 5 in a race where few appeal.
I had pencilled Brimham Rocks in at about 13/8 or 6/4 for this race and I think 9/4 is worthy of a bet.
Looking at the opposition, the only other horse to win last time was American Craftsman, but he only won a class 6 race at Beverley that day and he is up 6 lbs in the handicap in this better grade.
Brimham Rocks is still on 69 and with De Sousa on board I feel he is a good bet at 9/4 with a little touch of quality and the physical scope to progress against fairly moderate opponents.
2.10 Haycock Thursday Brimham Rocks 9/4
I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t go very close here at the least.
Good work Steve. I was going to follow you in but then got really busy this morning and forgot…

Thanks Gun, I think the horse just blew his handicap mark after that romp though. He really stormed clear there.
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June 9, 2017 at 13:32 #1303825The 6.50 at Haydock sees a couple of youngsters who are pretty tightly knit in form to my eyes but the odds suggest only one can win it.
Both were second on their debuts and both should cope with the soft ground this evening. Bookmakers are strongly in favour of Red Force One though, probably on the heads of Zap going on to be 3rd in the Woodcote. For me Raydiance holds a roughly similar chance after a neck second on his debut. Winner Green Power re-opposes but is 6 lbs worse off.
Nothing much has come out of Raydiance’s race but the pair were 9 lengths clear that time and you wouldn’t expect much from the ones well thrashed.
The big draw is that Raydiance was 10/3 and Red Force One 10/11. The Dascombe horse may improve and win it but I just feel the value at 10/3 was Raydiance for Karl Burke.
6.50 Haydock Raydiance 10/3
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June 9, 2017 at 19:00 #1303844Good shout Steve and a nice performance from Raydiance won it easy….

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June 9, 2017 at 19:14 #1303846You’re on fire at the moment, will look with interest if you fancy anything tomorrow.
June 10, 2017 at 22:54 #1304010Thanks everyone.
I decided to leave it today. I was nursing a bit a hangover and the ground was plenty soft enough.
I had an ante-post selection running at Newmarket in the form of Jaunito Chico, mentioned earlier in the thread at 9/2. The best backed in the race, right down to 11/4 Fav but was left with a lot to do coming from the back of the field. Rolling about a bit under pressure he kept on well to finish a short head and a nose behind the second horse in 4th place. I reckon he might have been second if not coming from so far back but it made no difference to winning the race because he caught a tartar in John Gosden’s Parfait, who had seemed exposed but who has clearly come on a ton for being gelded and fitted with cheekpieces.
Parfait ran smoothly all the way and shot clear for a seven length win, ripping the field to shreds and making a mockery of his handicap mark of 85. His mark will be blown out of the water now but on the plus side his new figure could see him get into one of the big Royal Ascot Handicap races.
Parfait fairly slaughtered his opponents and it was interesting that I saw him napped up on his previous start at Leicester, when the tipster noted how well the horse had been working on the gallops. That’s got to be galling for any tipster to nap him at Leicester at 5/1,only to see him finish 5th, and then watch him go in at Newmarket to win 7 lengths at 11/1 in a class 2, compared to class 3 the time before.
That’s typical of this tough game we are all mad enough to frequent.
Another horse backed at bigger odds and then backed in, but no cigar with Juanito Chico. Thankfully the earlier winners helped offset the loser and non-runner. With Absolutely So winning the John Of Gaunt, I doubt there was a lot for Home Of The Brave to have feared in that race. Once again, Mitchum Swagger was backed and disappointing. Breton Rock also showed he’s got quite a poor strike rate when favourite.
Hope some of you got winners today. The only one I looked at earlier in the week who won today was Bateel. I did have a glance when she was 5/1 but that was only because she had moved to Francis Graffard in France. I then started wondering would she definitely turn up and by the time I looked today, I felt she was too short to play on.
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June 11, 2017 at 03:15 #1304019The card at Goodwood today sees a horse I felt was slightly unfortunate not to win last time.
Henry Candy’s Time To Exceed was coming in after a win and looking an improved performer this season. In the end she seemed done for toe slightly but she was staying on. For me, Ryan Moore seemed to be having a job getting a clear path and in the end had to duck across the back of the leaders and start the finish in earnest against the rail.
They kept on well but just went down a short head. I felt that a straight run all the way would have seen her win.
Up 2 lbs for being second, I think the step up to 7F will more than offset that and after only six career starts, there could be easily more to come.
I have seen Medburn Dream tipped up and both horses are the same odds in a place and tight across the boards. The trouble is that, although Medburn Dream is back to his last winning mark, it has been a while since his purple patch when he won three in a row and that Hat-Trick began from a mark of 60. All four of his career wins have come at a mile or more and 7F at Goodwood could be sharp for him. He has also had 18 career starts compared to Time To Exceed’s 6 races.
Henry Candy is in OK form with a win and a few seconds this past fortnight. Dane O’Neill rides and I like the profile of this filly at odds of 11/4. I would have her 9/4 and Medburn Dream 4/1 if I were pricing the race up myself.
4.45 Goodwood Sunday Time To Exceed 11/4
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June 11, 2017 at 11:40 #1304058Mate just update my ante post royal ascot bets any views on them mate be welcome in my thread even on lesser races
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