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    douginho
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    I like group ones too gerald, although these horse appear less often and often only for one season!

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    I LIKE them, but I’m not obsessed by them.

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    yorkshirepudding
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    Awinnersgame, I saw his half sister win the irish Guieans, I saw him in utero sold, i backed him too win at doncaster. he is small but he is all heart.

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    Bulwark is 8 lbs higher than when winning the Chester Cup.

    What is weird is that he is 2 lbs higher than when coming 29 out of 32 in the Cesarewitch last time out.

    They ain’t started putting horses up on the Flat for their performances over hurdles have they? :shock:

    edit: Have just worked it out. He went up 2 lbs for being beaten 10 lengths in the Doncaster Cup.

    He started the cesarewitch off 6lbs higher than his chester cup win and so should hopefully come down another lb or 2 in time for chester. Weight isnt really that relevant with him though, its all about pace. He is an out and out traveller and needs them to go a fast pace to figure, but at the distance he is the best traveller in the whole division, and just doesnt want an emphasis on finishing speed. But the way Crowley brought him off the turn last year he was travelling about 10lbs better than som tala and tilt in the last furlong and just cruised up and past them when they were all out. Like say IMO the only thing that will see him fail to place is either a slow pace or a fast surface or both, but they tend to go a fast pace in this race and he should well. Obviously the fact that he a fast pace needs to always be figured into what ever price is available on him and thats why I’d want 20s or better.

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    Bulwark isn’t amongst the 61 entries for the Chester Cup. :shock:

    Connections have entered other horses though.

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    Whhhhaaaaattttt???? :shock:

    What else could they be targetting with him though?

    The Yorkshire Cup is too short, the Ascot Gold Cup is usually on an unsuitable surface, and the pitmans derby can be a combination of both with a slow pace thrown in for good measure to ensure he cant win. Something isnt right there.

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    3m summer hurdles, perhaps? There’s at least one 0-140 (or thereabouts) handicap over that distance at Worcester in high summer, plus the big class 2 contest during Newton Abbot’s Lord Mildmay meeting at the end of August.

    I’m not talking in jest here. As you rightly say, adequate tests for Bulwark over a suitable surface are scarce enough even during the rump of the Flat season, so I wonder if current connections (still Ian Williams?) think they have more chance of plundering something with him over timber (or brushes in Worcester’s case).

    Chasing remains an untried option, of course, though not one any of his other siblings have dabbled with previously.

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    Hard to know what they’ll do Jeremy, however they do tend to go that bit slower over obstacles and so he seldom seems to have everything just right over jumps, that last run at uttoxeter the horse that was making a reasonable pace fell early and snake charmer took over and made it a crawl so he had no chance. A slow pace on a fast surface are his worst conditions.

    Perhaps Williams will aim him for the same races as Baddam last season, but he really doesnt like gd-fm that much. It will be intersting to see what happens, but missing the chester cup looks like a big kick in the nuts for him this season.

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    There is a 3m H’cap H’dle on the same card as the Swinton, that was worth almost 16k to the winner last year.

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