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- November 22, 2008 at 05:35 #191270
Somethings been bugging me for ages now about a flapping race at Dingle in 01/02.
Ballygowan Beauty ran under the name of "Bog Road" – he won by miles and I’ve read the story before that he was backed from 20’s into 5/2 and the jockey was miles clear without even touching him. Seem to remember it was a good Irish jockey riding at the moment but can’t remember who, anyone any ideas?
November 22, 2008 at 12:47 #191285My brother had pitches at a few of the flapping meetings up here years ago. Great fun and an education on how to make a book when all runners were owned, trained and ridden by a bunch of conmen.
One day we worked at the Merrymas at Irvine in Ayrshire close to the old Bogside racecourse. A grey horse won the first race by a mile and then turned out for a later race but this time it was almost black! It started raining when the runners were parading and the dye washed off!
Is there any connection between this incident and The Langholm Dyer?
November 22, 2008 at 14:52 #191299did you know that keith dalgliesh one of the best and up coming jockeys started his career as a flapping jockey, until his weight took control. also 2007 succesfull aprentice champion greg fairley started as a flapping jockey on our borders flapping tracks. greg was a very good jockey whom took over from his father andrew fairley who now assists in daily riding for mark johnstone. Andrew rode 100s of winners and was one one of the best there has been on flapping tracks.our flapping has grown over the last 3-4 years and is getting more competative each year with more and more runners each season.
last years flapping champion jockey tyrone williams is returning back under the rules after takeing necessary time off and i wish him good luck.Should you really be outing these people on a public forum if they are intending on returning to racing under rules?
November 22, 2008 at 23:00 #191401I’m not aware of any stigma attaching to riders who progress from flapping to riding under rules. Every second jockey out of Ireland has started in pony racing (not to be confused with Pony Club racing), to give flapping it its other name.
November 24, 2008 at 04:13 #191638My brother had pitches at a few of the flapping meetings up here years ago. Great fun and an education on how to make a book when all runners were owned, trained and ridden by a bunch of conmen.
One day we worked at the Merrymas at Irvine in Ayrshire close to the old Bogside racecourse. A grey horse won the first race by a mile and then turned out for a later race but this time it was almost black! It started raining when the runners were parading and the dye washed off!
Is there any connection between this incident and The Langholm Dyer?
Let me enlighten you on the Langholm Dyer and how it got it’s name. Edinburgh Woollen Mill (director David Stevenson) who owned the horse started off with a company called The Langholm Dying and Finishing company. They dyed the wool for the textile mills. That is how he got his name. Some Langholm people (me among them) used to refer to horses owned by David Stevenson (now under Ashley Bank Investments) as "The Dye House horses" . It is still possible that this still happens, I certainly still refer to them as that.
November 25, 2008 at 03:16 #191912Thanks for that, b bob.
November 25, 2008 at 03:31 #191919
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flapping is a fantastic educational experience for young riders to learn and racing round hawick and langholm tracks in the scottish borders takes someone with balls of steel. just a shame BHA dont acknowlage it more.
December 7, 2008 at 20:18 #195193It was Paddy Flood who rode
December 7, 2008 at 20:49 #195200if you have a horse rated under 60 on the flat why pay 700-1000p/m training fees to win a grand on the all weather if your horse does win. think about it. train it yourself run it flapping for similar prize money what banded racing has to offer.;. dont be mistaken though dont think flapping is horses that could not win banded races, we have had people buy group 2-3 horses that couldnt win flapping races. most recent group horse was elvington boy.
Bang on……people can get great enjoyment out of doing their own thing. You may remember Glasgow Alhambra who won many flapping races (ridden by Jed, who’s surname I have forgotten) The fun you can have with a horse like that you can’t buy……I knew loads of guys who trained their own horse and it cost peanuts to keep them. They had great fun and made a few quid gambling at the flapping .You don’t need to be Harry Findlay to get fun out of racing….he’s just a guy with loads of money…great feeling knowing you have achieved something no matter how small it is to others.
that would be jed huggon
Spot on!! Seems to remember the race he won a couple of times maybe even 3 times on the horse was called the Tradesmans?
January 17, 2009 at 05:18 #204571
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anyone live near the borders with thoroughbreds fancy having a runner at the flapping, or any young jockeys wanting to learn. most of the jockeys that race today started there ambition at pony racing and flapping its a great stepping stone for the younger generation to start. its also great fun if you are just a typical working man who allways wanted to own a racehorse at a race meeting. in the borders there is racing all summer and you can train your horse at home with out the costs incured under the rules, but remember if you race your race horse at a flapping track you can never race under BHA again as they wont aknowlage flapping. the races are run over 6 furlongs 7, 1 mile, 1 1/4 mile and 1 1/2 mile and prize money per race varies from £500 to £1600[/img]
January 17, 2009 at 16:44 #204652where would be the closest flapping track to Bamburgh and when would they be likely to race there?
January 17, 2009 at 17:06 #204658What’s the age limit for jockeys please? Ever since I saw OXO win the National I’ve always dreamt of riding in the greatest steeplechase. Do you think PN might jock-off Ruby and give me a leg up on Denman?
January 18, 2009 at 03:43 #204816where would be the closest flapping track to Bamburgh and when would they be likely to race there?
Hawick has regular meetings from May onwards with the big Common Riding two day meeting the first weekend in June with a night firxture the following Saturday. Selkirk Common Riding is in June the week after Hawick
Langholm Common Riding is the Last Friday in July (31st this year) with the Common Riding culminating in the Cornet’s Chase on the race course then a few local races and then a break for lunch and some open races in the afternoon, alongside that is an athletics meeting with Cumberland and Westmorland wrestling and Highland dancing. I am somewhat biased but this is the best of the lot.
Incidentally, Langholm Common Riding colours change every year and are the colours carried by the Derby Winner. I do have some interesting ties as a result.
January 18, 2009 at 03:53 #204819went to see the Coldstream Riding Out a year or so ago and a wonderful sight it was! I’m not planning to go up until the start of September this year, though.
January 19, 2009 at 17:42 #205130
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What’s the age limit for jockeys please? Ever since I saw OXO win the National I’ve always dreamt of riding in the greatest steeplechase. Do you think PN might jock-off Ruby and give me a leg up on Denman?
i think the youngest you can ride at flapping is 14. mark johnstones jockey Greg Fairly was a Hawick flapping jockey and was very good he started at arround 14/15 years old.
March 31, 2009 at 02:08 #219342
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Langholm Horse Racing Association has been providing quality horse racing for many years. The purpose of our organisation is to have Race Meetings throughout the year at various venues. The horses that are racing are all thoroughbreds that are registered with the Thoroughbred Register at Wetherby’s & that can provide the necessary passport to prove this.
Some horses that are competing travel as far as Wales and Aberdeen and spectators will travel from great distances, sometimes making it a short or long weekend break.
The horses that travel from further destinations are boarded at nearby stables and the owners usually stay at the same property or a nearby Bed & Breakfast or Hotel.
This type of racing is to give owners/syndicates a chance to run their own horse under the “Flapping Rules & Regulations”, but they do not have to train them under a Registered Trainer. This keeps the costs down of owning a Race Horse and at the same time provides pleasurable and enjoyable times.. Because the horses are not trained under a Registered Trainer – please note – any horses that are run on the “flapping circuit” can no longer run at other racing events that are organised by the Jockey Club.
March 31, 2009 at 02:10 #219343
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