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Bos – we’d meant to do more with the chat-room during the build up to Cheltenham but never quite managed it with other things going on.
Posters come and go – over the ten years I’ve been on this forum I’ve seen many who’ve been very insightful but who have, for one reason or another, drifted away. But I think we have lots of enthusiastic new forum posters (young and old) who are passionate about their racing and who I very much enjoy reading, and we have plenty of the old guard left who still greatly enjoy TRF.
As I’ve said already Cheltenham last week was the busiest traffic week
ever
on TRF.
It’s very tricky judging the moderation on the site. We’re usually pretty accommodating and you do have to try pretty hard to get yourself banned. In fact I think I’m probably too lenient and allow certain posters
too much
leeway rather than too little. The last thing we want is to lose people who are good posters and generate debate but those two left us no choice.
On a personal note, as a forum user rather than moderator, I agree with Maxilon’s view that
"The first three months of this year have been more involving, friendlier and more interesting than the whole of last year."
I’d personally love to see Grasshopper, Big Buck’s and quite a few others back posting regularly but we’ve changed the forum quite a bit over the last 5 years or so and I know those changes haven’t suited everyone. But my own view is that we are doing OK and we are all working very, very hard to try to keep TRF top of the forum pile!
…I still miss Gerald. Also find myself wondering what Gord or Fist would think or say about certain events.
It’s a great shame. TAPK was a real money spinner for me and surprisingly open with his inspired tipping. I am missing the steady income he provided. Does Gord contribute to other forums?
Whilst missing some of the posts from these two, I think that we should be supportive of corm and the moderators.
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I’ve seen a dramatic increase in the activity and intelligent Horse Racing discussion since the two have left, new posters have been on the increase with the place seemingly a lot more friendly and open to novices of the sport who are getting their opinions put across in what has been a variety of excellent threads in all areas of the forum in recent months.
I think Cormack was brave but correct in his decision, the two almost took over the whole forum and from a far it looked like people gave up posting their thoughts because you could be assured that the next post would either be from either pair with a contradictive or abrasive post.
The two of them did have their positives though and it would be a shame to remember them for their negatives, TAPK had a fantastic record with his Ante Post betting whilst we’ll never ever forget what he backed, when he backed it and what price the man was good at what he did whilst Fist had ability to write something that would have you reading from the start to the finish with some insightful thoughts form his experience but the two let them and the forum down which is a shame.
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I doubt anyone on this forum had more pokes at TAPK for the threads he polluted with his posturing, but there was still some sense in much of his offerings, and moderation should mean more than ‘conform or die’ in its true sense, so why interesting posters like he and Fist should be banned, yet crud like the following is given free rein:
skyelaw10
20 Mar 2011, 17:27long run ran well to win the gold cup and the king george and im amazed at the vast improvement this horse has somehow made. the horse hit loads of fences and still won, he could hardly get round cheltenham before, something just doesnt add up to me, if any other horse had hit the fences like long run done they would of went backwards , time will only tell if he continues to improve unless he is something special and has been held back as not to show his true form, i suppose anything can happen in racing these days.
escapes me completely.
Is this a discussion group, or a kindergaten?
^^Can’t believe for second that the banning of Fist and TAPK has somehow encouraged some obviously feint-hearted lurkers to start actually posting.
TAPK was always tongue in cheek at worst, and guilty of giving as good as he got, if anything, to those that either didn’t
get
his style of bolshy, braggy posts or the
very
easily riled.
Shame.
ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated ?
David Marshall’s concise concluding statement directed
at me in 2002 as the clone wars ended on Flutter.
All of his majestic writing,
pitched at me in battle including;
the rich chocolate cake posting
and the lady who elegantly shasayed her walking wares
like two giant vats of bubbling boiling oil,
had all been completely jordanized.I feel less angry, perhaps on a level of miff, not to have
been informed that two of the three writing witches
had been silently put to death.
Like Drone I was blissfully unaware
Dante had written his inferno.Gerald, Ante, and Fist were three of the top five producers
in the year of the witch 2010. Amazing that their prodigious
output has been fizzled out Tom Dooley style
and placed in the mccarthy no country for old men pot.Maxilon paints a better picture since they’ve been gone.
I will digest his post with my coffee, and may have a few more words.
A minimum monthly list of deaths must be posted for the sanity of the living.
Death on the stairs
lower left peg
lower right leg
lower left peg
lower right leg
lower left peg
lower right leg
lower left peg
lower right leg
lower left peg
lower right leg
lower left peg
lower right leg
look out for the hole
on the thirteenth stairAAAArgggggggggghh
Much as I usually agree
with your madness Max
I may not be feeling the
same buttons as you
as I contemplate the
first quarter.Cavelino jump started this
house which was languishing
like a beached whale
with his lengthy evaluation.Anthonycutt managed to stop
the lounge – a useful barometer of forum health –
for two and a half days in January.Mr Pilsen this very month
also ground the wheels
to a halt for a day and a half,
with the probable assist of
terrible news from Japan.The three witches’ Macbeth production
in the shape of King Fist and Wilson
at least provided some sparks to lighten
the place and yes it ended in regicide
but life is cheap as chips in here and
online life isn’t worth a dry bone.I presume the two were dispatched
after their farewells, like the
the two princes in the tower.Ian Davies (6000+) who offered his knees
up for hacking off,
Jim JTS who committed jimicide
(6600) and lately Gerald
Fist and King all banged out
thousands of posts and I wonder
if the high numbers are a connection
to their deaths.This also makes me wonder
if Matron is suitably insured.I am still chewing over
what this all means
:lol: ^^
Can’t believe for second that the banning of Fist and TAPK has somehow encouraged some obviously feint-hearted lurkers to start actually posting.
TAPK was always tongue in cheek at worst, and guilty of giving as good as he got, if anything, to those that either didn’t
get
his style of bolshy, braggy posts or the
very
easily riled.
Shame.
Actually, in my experience, it does start to encourage people to come out of the woodwork. When you have dominant and aggressive posters, they tend to unnerve those who might have something to contribute but don’t want to find themselves in a playground scrap. In addition if a group looks cliquey, with the same handful of people posting, it deters new arrivals from joining in. Eventually forums die if they don’t attract new blood.
Plus forum owners have a lot more pressure on them these days, they can be held liable for things said on them… I used to be a moderator and it was a generally thankless task. Ultimately, it’s Corm’s playground and if people don’t want to play by his rules they can always go set up their own.
Gamble dear sheep…very troublesome , but I think Mr Wilson got it about right , which surprised me as I have always thought he was a numbers man …..not so , as it turns out he is not half bad at all
This outpost keeps regenerating , to be fair the cornflake posters are fading or being booted aside , to be replaced by ad hominem posters (honest Guv )and some nice waxy stuff from Max
The sheriff of Gotham is on strike , silvoir has had a reprieve from the hangman’s noose ….which leaves just a few good guys …and a million adverts for every bookie in the universe (easy Corm …just testing)
Still its not a baaaaaaaad place to be
Ricky
Yes Ricky but with
each regeneration
there is a dilution
of spirit and soul.Cormack’s balance sheet numbers
cannot rekindle
the lost spirits in what
is becoming
a heavily haunted house.Why cannot the dead be given
some rights of congregation
in a special place.
A basement would be
ideal – where their groans
can be chained upI’m heading out for a krone
True dear sheep , why dont we have a special armistice day on 1st of April ……invite all the dead and banned to one room for one day
The crack (craic …..) will be mighty
Ricky
ps and ban all bookie ads for the same day ………
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and ban all bookie ads for the same day
Use ADBLOCK (Firefox or Chrome) and you’ll never see any.
The problem some people have, I think, is that they’d like TRF to be some anarchic free-for-all where any/all opinions can vent untroubled by convention. Any intervention is seen as interfering with that utopian vision of an anonymous internet entropy.
I have some, idealistic, truck with that view but know that it cannot be. Firstly, the exodus would be sharp and swift leaving only the anarchists brawling on an empty street and, secondly, there are legal considerations which may be irrelevant to some (misguidedly so, I might add) but are sharply pressing to certain others.
Thread after thread of Fist/TAPK dominated argument (for all the very occasional gem that might have emerged) was already tiresome. It then developed beyond that into the untenable and offensive.
I’m not really interested in the ghosts Gamble, let them haunt other houses. I’m more interested in making the next newcomer who is passionate about racing feel confortable posting on here than providing a playing field for the egoists.
So far as the balance sheet goes, it does need to balance or no one will be posting. No apologies from here for that.
Potential posters should not be deterred from posting because of an individual or individuals on any internet forum.
However, to cite that as the primary reason for their disinclination to post is, in itself, rather superficial. There are probably many factors behind that reluctance. Lack of confidence or introversion perhaps – or could it be that certain people just feel they have less to say than others, and simply do not wish to relay their thoughts to a wider audience.
I wouldn’t necessarily lay the blame entirely at the door of Fist or TAPK. Those gentlemen are what they are – to use an old cliche – and as such are too old to change now.
On the other hand, some did relish the prospect of a good argument with them – and of course, them being them, would both kindly oblige.Yes, they were compulsive posters, but that was probably symptomatic of their nature – and I mean this in a nice way – it seemed that it was an enthusiasm coupled with a need for attention. Doesn’t make them bad people though.
I thought they were both very similar in style, leading me to think for one fleeting moment that they were one and the same person.
In saying that, both are grown men. They probably realised that they let their enthusiasm and emotions boil over at certain times – when all that was required was a sharp intake of breath and a step back from the keyboard.
But hey, life goes on…
and now it feels as if I’m stuck in the middle of a Samuel Beckett play with Gamble and Ricky Lake about.
How very surreal
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
Bring on fools day
for Bing’n’Fist
and other ethereal giants
and all dead crispmen
not fogetting
the vinegar ladies
with cobweb tights
and a six foot hole
to play in.What does all this mean ?
Is there not a passage
in the bible that states
that while the meek will
inherit the earth
the odd will be
disembowelled.This is an end of an era
the era of the large
knobbly shouldered poster
the force majeure
the galacticos of rollerball
who gave inexorable vent
to vendettas and vices
in disregard to
the the mildly meek
musing majority.I must thank the
end of an era men
for their zealously huge
footprints in the sand
rolled over and blasted
into nothingness
by sixty foot waves of
unacceptable words,
encapsulated possibly
in King’s epitaph
"I am what I am "
and the damp diary washed up
with a sea urchin
on just another Thai beach
and buried mournfully
in a garden
of small house built
triumphantly into the shape
of an Arc.
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