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Special Duty to win this however not in the stewards room
Wonder if any bookies have a market on Special Duty winning this race in the stewards room
Suprised with the lack of hype around, for me, it’s the best race on the card. Lay Special Duty and back StrawberryDaquira for me, great value.
Does anyone know why Betfair racecards are reporting Lemaire on Duty, when ATR are reporting Queally on?
The record of Coronation Stakes winners going on to win the Falmouth/Child Stakes is 6, one of whom was Happy Laughter who had also won the 1,000 Guineas. To date Waterloo (1972) and Happy Laughter (1953) are the only Guineas winners to win the race as 3-y-o’s.
Unlike Ravinella (Head’s last 1,000 Gns/Pouliches double winner) Special Duty has been given an extra three weeks off by avoiding Royal Ascot and comes here instead. Whether that extra freshness will be enough to resharpen the edges which had clearly been blunted on Ravinella at Ascot following the overly hard spring campaign remains to be seen.
I think she palpably had two hard races at Newmarket and Longchamp, and as devastating a turn of foot as she clearly possesses, I would be loath to risk backing her until she proves her wellbeing. Although a lot of people are quick to knock Lily Langtry’s position at the head of the market, on trends alone she has a greater chance than Special Duty, plus she has had one less race than Special Duty this season, and her seasonal debut hardly saw her being knocked about.
It took the great Hatoof three races following her Newmarket Guineas to regain the winning thread in the Prix De L’Opera,, so I would be inclined to take the Head filly on this time, as much as I am a big fan of the filly and her trainer.
The Stoute older filly seemes to be on a very well planned steady rise up the ranks, and will be guaranteed to give a hard race to whichever filly takes her on approaching the dip. It is however off putting to note what a relatively poor record older filles and mares have in this racec compared to their 3 year old juniors. Which brings the chances of Lily Langtry into even sharper focus.
With 7 juvenile races to her name, including a trip to the breeders cup, she must be as hard as nails to bounce back at Ascot to bag her first Group 1, so anyone thinking she will curl up and go away in the final furlong or two is taking a huge leap of faith imo.
Lemaire was declared to ride Special Duty but broke his leg at Compeigne yesterday so Queally replaces him JJM
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The fact Lilly Langtree started fav at Ascot and Jaqueline Quest was very easy to back at twice the odds doesn’t say much for the Gineas form….on paper it puts Lilly Langtree miles in front of Special Duty but that’s hard to swallow.
The Guineas was probably just one of the days and Special Duty could prove to be in a different league to Jaqueline Quest.
Very hard to judge how these 3 year olds will fair against StrawberryD and Spacious.
The former is as tough as old boots so whatever wins will know it’s had a race.
As hard as the line through Lilly Langtree, Special Duty and Jaqueline Quest is to swallow it’s equally as hard to ignore.
I’ll stick with AOB’s Lilly Langtree.
Lemaire was declared to ride Special Duty but broke his leg at Compeigne yesterday so Queally replaces him JJM
Thank you sir.
Terrible luck, am I right in thinking someone else was on her at Newmarket? Stephan Pasquier?
If we look at the three 1000 Guineas, they all finished in a heap, so it doesn’t take a genius to work out that there’s no outstanding 3yo filly miler. We were looking for something to grab the division by the scruff of the neck in the Coronation, and that’s exactly what happened, as Lillie Langtry was a brilliant winner.
Strawberrydaiquiri will no doubt do a Gandalf on it and say "you shall not pass!", but she’s crying out for 10f imo and the O’Brien filly should have too much speed for her. Special Duty has been unlucky not to finish first past the post in both the English and French Guineas, and she should also be in the frame.
Special Duty has been unlucky not to finish first past the post in both the English and French Guineas, and she should also be in the frame.
Why was SD unlucky not to pass the post first in France?
Clearly not good enough to beat Liliside on the day and if Liliside hadn’t bumped the other Abdullah runner, SD might not have even gotten out from behind the wall of horses she was behind.Sorry david, I got that wrong, for some reason I had it in my mind that she got hindered rather than the Aga Khan filly
Anyway, I think Lillie Langtry will prove too good for her.
As hard as the line through Lilly Langtree, Special Duty and Jaqueline Quest is to swallow it’s equally as hard to ignore.
I’ll stick with AOB’s Lilly Langtree.
Special Duty was inconvenienced by the ground on the Rowley Mile that day. She is a fast ground filly and will leave that form behind tomorrow.
My prices to beat are:
5/2 Lillie Langtry, 9/2 Strawberrydaqueri,
9/2 Rainfall
, 7/1 Special Duty,
10/1 Gile Na Greine
, 15/1 Spacious, 15/1 Music Show, 100/1 Lahaleeb
These are the prices I believe they should be, not what I think they will be.
Rainfall beat the colts last time. Should stay, although by Oasis Dream, her dam won at 1m4f. Only made her debut in May, rapidly improving and if that improvement continues will beat these. Stable in cracking form. Proved she acts well on firm ground at Ascot.
Gile Na Greine is just too big a price. Second in the Coronation to Lillie Langtry. That one far more likely to improve; but the latter is 9/4, Gile Na Greine is available at 17.5/1 for little over a length beating.
Value Is EverythingMy prices to beat are:
5/2 Lillie Langtry, 9/2 Strawberrydaqueri,
9/2 Rainfall
, 7/1 Special Duty,
10/1 Gile Na Greine
, 15/1 Spacious, 15/1 Music Show, 100/1 Lahaleeb
15/1
Music Show
eh Ginge,that would be the e/w bet of the week for me!
TAPK,
15/1 is 6.25%. Add to that a bookies mark up and my 15/1 would become around 12/1. Only just bigger than what bookmakers have Music Show.I expected someone to say about Special Duty, I have her at much bigger than bookmakers. Hasn’t impressed me on either start. If we take the name of the two races away and concentrate purely on the form (one horse against the other) and she’s a terrible price. What price would any of the horses who finished around her in those two races be in this race? Not saying she won’t win, just very poor value to win.
Value Is EverythingSurely the magnificent Lillie Langtry has to just show up and win.
Can’t believe donkeys like Spacious can trouble Horse’s that have a bit of class
I have a sneaking suspicion that Strawberrydaiquiri has something up her sleeves, and could produce a big run as the horse on the up.
Fives is a decent price, IMHO.
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So don't run, just like the others always do
Lemaire was declared to ride Special Duty but broke his leg at Compeigne yesterday so Queally replaces him JJM
Thank you sir.
Terrible luck, am I right in thinking someone else was on her at Newmarket? Stephan Pasquier?
Stephane Pasquier was indeed on board that day.
However he is injured- recovering from a broken tibia (lower leg bone) sustained in the paddock at Saint Cloud.
Lemaire was initially booked as replacement tomorrow. He has also now broken a leg so Queally steps in as third choice.
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