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  • #155311
    Seagull
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    Wed 2 March

    apache dawn up
    scarlett heart 3rd @7/2
    my mentor up

    3 sel=3 ew doubles stake £6.00

    loss on day £6.00

    bank to c/f £93.00

    #155685
    Seagull
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    Thurs 3 April

    elusive dream won 7/2
    punta galera won 11/4

    650 kempt had 8 runners but j/sec fav one of which won but left race alone.

    so just the 1 ew double
    won £17.51

    bank to c/f £110.51

    #155699
    Artemis
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    Seagull,

    These EW doubles are going very well indeed, proving that such bets are probably as good a system to follow as anyone could hope for in view of today’s tighter margins.

    I know you have to do a bit of work to keep an eye on the markets, but you shouldn’t have much difficulty getting on for reasonable stakes since you are backing doubles.

    You don’t see many bets these days where the punter gets a slight edge without wading through the form book and opening multiple betting accounts to forage for scraps of value.

    I cannot see any reason why the bank will not continue to grow steadily.
    Well done, indeed.

    #155727
    Seagull
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    Artemis,
    I take no credit for these.
    It is nothing new.

    It is something bookmakers have no control over as the markets are formed from betfair and from the race tracks. The beauty is both these sources do not include ew betting so it is totally governed by the overall rules ie 5th odds for the sec fav to win or get placed.

    However you will get barred from doing them just with one bookmaker all the time as all bookmakers know that overall they cannot win.

    Doing these has caused more bans that anything else.
    Ladbrokes .com limited me to £5.00 max solely from doing these with them. I used to have a ‘pop up’ informing me this when I went on line with them!

    You need to go to the next step and that is to for all intents and purposes to have single ew bets. :wink:

    For example £50.ew with bookie 1 then calculate any winnings and place the winnings and another £50.00 ew on the next sec fav in 8 runners races as for example £83.00 ew with bookie no 2.

    So to those who monitor accounts at on line bookmakers you are only doing single ew bets.

    Carry on like this and you can get on most of the time.

    On Day 2 start with bookie no 3.

    You need around 10 on line firms.

    Drawback is you need to watch the live markets closely otherwise if you do these before going to work some days they have market moves and no one can predict what horse may start fav or indeed sec fav.

    I leave these races alone when they have joint or co 1st favs and joint or co 2nd favs.

    That website I previously listed works out any bets and informs you what the next stake should be. I have that listed in my favs for quick reference.

    pm me for any further details but i.m.h.o it is far the best system bet ever devised. Bookmakers have no control over it unless they reduce the precentages.

    #156018
    Seagull
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    Friday 4 April

    Big Bucks won 11/4
    Avontuur u/p
    First Order u/p

    3 selections = 3 ew doubles
    stake £6.00
    lost £6.00

    bank £104.51

    #156049
    Artemis
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    I thought it might be hard work, ducking and diving a bit to keep ahead of the ‘knock-back’.

    Many years ago, the betting office I ran was visited now and then by a couple of scruffy characters who were each-way thieves as well as trying on the ‘slow count’ for dog races. They were both as thick as bulls lugs, but someone cleverer than they must have told them to invest the proceeds of their criminal activity on these each way bets. So, yes it’s as old as the hills, but it works.

    #156058
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Apologies if this has been discussed earlier as I haven’t read all the posts but are these bets best settled by the bookies default of Win-win Place-place or is Equally Divided (‘Eachway all eachway’) preferential?

    Or, as I suspect, do both perform similarly in the long term?

    The knowledge that ‘dead eight’ EW doubles favour the punter may be as old as the hills but this is another interesting real-time trial from Seagull, particularly his suspicion-diverting method of placing them

    Carry on chaps

    #156267
    Seagull
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    Drone,
    Overall both methods work and not suprisingly they both make more or less the same returns.

    Sat 5th April

    there were 5 races today that had 8 runners with no fav or second fav had joint or co favs.

    they were
    Takeroc 2nd 5/2
    Sharp Nephew 1st 5/1
    Benedetto 3rd 7/2
    Raimond Ridge 2nd 3/1
    Internatnationaldebut 3rd 6/4

    5 selections =10 ew doubles
    stake £20.00

    returns were inc stake
    2.25
    2.55
    2.40
    1.95 loss 0.05
    2.55
    2.40
    1.95 loss 0.05
    2.72
    2.21
    2.08
    profit on day £3.06

    bank to c/f £107.57

    #156483
    Seagull
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    Sun 6th APRIL

    NO SELECTIONS

    #156746
    davidbrady
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    Mon 07-Apr

    PLU 14:20 Barodine – 2nd @ 11/4
    PLU 16:20 Pacco – 1st @ 7/2
    KEL 16:30 Great Jane – 1st @ 4/1
    PLU 16:50 Present M’Lord – 1st @ 5/2
    KEM 17:10 Fun In The Sun – 5th @ 11/4

    10 x £1 each-way doubles = £20 stake

    Returns (incl stake)
    AB: 2.64
    AC: 2.79
    AD: 2.33
    AE: 0.00
    BC: 25.56
    BD: 18.30
    BE: 0.00
    CD: 20.20
    CE: 0.00
    DE: 0.00

    Total return £71.82

    Profit on day £51.82

    Bank to c/f = £159.39

    #156805
    Seagull
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    Cheeers David can u do them until I get back going to Jersey next Sunday for the 1 week.

    #156932
    davidbrady
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    No problem Seagull

    Tue 08-Apr

    STH 15:30 Irish Conection – 3rd @ 11/4
    STH 16:30 Lethal – 2nd @ 9/4

    1 x £1 each-way double = £2 stake

    Returns (incl stake) £2.25

    Profit on day £0.25

    Bank to c/fwd 159.64

    *The 16:00 race at Southwell also had 8 runners but no selection due to joint 2nd favs (one of which was placed)

    #156942
    Avatar photoMatron
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    Thanks for this.

    I am afraid I haven’t got a lot spare time at the moment.

    Your help is appreciated.

    Regards- Matron
    :cool:

    #157166
    davidbrady
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    Wed 09-Apr

    LUD 14:50 Majorca – 4th @ 5/2
    TOW 17:00 Rydal Park – 1st @ 9/4
    KEM 20:20 Safari Sundowner – 7th @ 5/2

    3 x £1 each-way double = £6 stake

    Returns (incl stake) £0.00

    Loss on day -£6.00

    Bank to c/fwd 153.64

    #157318
    davidbrady
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    Thu 10-Apr

    FON 17:45 Urban Rebel – UR @ 5/2

    No doubles today so as you were:

    Bank to c/fwd 153.64

    #157462
    davidbrady
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    Fri 11-Apr

    MUS 14:00 Just The Lady – 3rd @ 10/3
    MUS 16:15 Prince Kalamoun – 2nd @ 9/4
    ASC 17:15 Mossville – 5th @ 10/3

    3 x £1 each-way double = £6.00 stake

    Returns (incl stake) £2.42

    Loss for day £3.58

    Bank to c/fwd 150.06

    #157604
    davidbrady
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    Sat 12-Apr

    DON 15:35 Medicine Path – 1st @ 9/2
    KEM 17:35 Coda Agency – 5th @ 2/1
    WOL 21:20 Art Exhibition – 2nd @ 3/1

    3 x £1 each-way double = £6.00 stake

    Returns (incl stake) £3.04

    Loss for day £2.96

    Bank to c/fwd 147.10

    NB – the 15:20 race at KEM also had 8 runners but with joint-2nd-favs so not included:

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