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- May 14, 2014 at 15:04 #479026
Shamkala
runs today in France. Seems like they could be thinking more about The Oaks contrary to their original statement that they would probably go for the Saint-Alary then the Diane. Still 16/1 in a couple of places for The Oaks which I think may be worth a small interest, though far from guaranteed to run.
The trainer has said her target is the Prix de Diane after she won today. She’s as low as 12/1 for Epsom, so that would seem nonsense based on the fact that she’s being trained for another race.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 14, 2014 at 17:08 #479038From yesterday’s Racing Post Oaks preview the trainer quote for Shamkala:-
‘We are not considering Epsom’.
May 14, 2014 at 18:10 #479042Shamkala has been cut to 5/2 for the Prix Diane. I haven’t seen todays race as was working, I don’t suppose anyone has a link to a replay?
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May 14, 2014 at 20:44 #479058The Prix Cleopatra is on Youtube, seach for Shamkala.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ov7ZL0wyVg
May 14, 2014 at 21:02 #479059Thanks STM.
She didn’t win by much but the manner of victory was comprehensive as again the jockey just had to give her little encouragement and just got her rolling and the whip was again never a thought. She showed her versatility here from the front whereas she came from behind last time. She was however in an ideal spot and the jockey judged the pace well from the front in a slow run race but even so looked to have plenty of gears if needed.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
May 14, 2014 at 21:05 #479060Trainer still adamant she stays in France.
"She is a filly who is extremely easy to position in a race, she can go in front or behind," said Royer-Dupre. "She is among our very biggest hopes. It was a piece of work but a race nonetheless. She will go straight to the Prix de Diane from here."
happy days.
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May 15, 2014 at 06:31 #479076Inchila runs in the 10f fillies listed stakes at Newbury tomorrow ahead of hopefully a tilt at The Oaks. Had to take some of the 33s.
May 15, 2014 at 08:50 #479083Difficult to make an accurate assessment of Madame Chiang. She is two from two and Fallon has a ‘style’ which can make a good horse look relatively poor. Bit surprised they are so adamant about the soft ground requirement because she doesn’t have an obviously pronounced action and yesterday’s ground wasn’t that desperate.
It doesn’t take a genius to say Taghrooda is the one to beat.
I raised concerns about Doyle on Kingman in the Guineas and perhaps timing was a contributory factor albeit under difficult circumstances. I would definitely have similar concerns about Hanagan. Three years into the Hamdan job and I am still struggling to see any improvement on Richard Hills. Earlier in the season he was so bad on Aljamaaheer he was almost criticised on RUK. That takes some doing. Only last week at least three horses literally ran away with him.
It could be that the favourite will just be too good but on a course where many better jockeys have found trouble I would just have a little doubt.
May 15, 2014 at 10:00 #479089As with NH racing at the moment there seem to be a lot of young jockeys coming through compared to experienced ones [especially with all of the recent injuries]. Can’t help but feel that the experienced ones [flat and NH] will run rings round some of the younger jockeys this season.
May 16, 2014 at 13:14 #479164Inchila runs in the 10f fillies listed stakes at Newbury tomorrow ahead of hopefully a tilt at The Oaks. Had to take some of the 33s.
Not much encouragement there and she’s 50/1 now.
I don’t think much of the form. Hadaatha ran OK but was weak in the market and probably gave an indication of her level today. The winner Volume rallied gamely but makes no appeal to me at 20/1 for Epsom. Sound Reflection is yet another Godolphin horse to go backwards from 1st to 2nd run of the season and she hardly paid any compliment to Oaks fav Taghrooda, who admittedly beat her easily last time.
The Michael Seely stakes, where Radiator was easy to back this morning, went to an outsider in the form of Richard Hannon’s Lustrous, who turned the form right round with Adhwaa, who was well ahead of her last time but well behind today. Godolphin’s Folk Melody, who had been considered an Oaks contender at one time, was way back in eighth place. She was supposed to have been set aside after one run last season because she was going to come into her own as a 3yo. After two eighth place finishes this season, her next three entries at Gp1, Gp2 and Gp1 level look like Fantasy Island material. She looks a bust to me.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 27, 2014 at 10:36 #480298Does anyone think Taghrooda won’t go off favourite for this race now?
Since the Irish 1000G went into the book all the money has been for the winner Marvellous and she is as low as 4/1 for Epsom now, having clearly gone in the opposite direction to Bracelet, whom she finished well behind on their seasonal debuts this season.
There will be a question about the extra half mile of the Oaks but the punters follow money for O’Brien runners like an eager reporter follows the Rolf Harris trial. With the surge of money we saw for Tapestry in the English 1000 it is not hard to envisage a similar degree of support for the Group 1 winning filly against a horse who has more stamina in her make up but who has won at a lower level.
Taghrooda has only won at listed level and although she won easily enough the form could hardly be working out worse. I was hoping Jordan Princess, who was second in the Pretty Polly, would have boosted the form last week but she ran like a drain and finished stone last. The other three fillies who have run since have been pretty much useless as well and it has to be a concern.
Taghrooda became favourite for the Oaks when many people probably hadn’t heard of her and I doubt she will appeal to the casual punter at current odds on the day of the race.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 29, 2014 at 12:28 #480479Marvellous continues to shorten. It appears that punters are just assuming that she will stay the extra half-mile. Yes, she finished off the Guineas well (albeit with a pretty horrible scratchy action) but it almost certainly wasn’t a great renewal and the second would have preferred less testing conditions. Her dam didn’t win beyond six furlongs and was well beaten on her only venture beyond a mile. It seems most of the stamina input is going to have to come from the sire. It is probably worth noting the same Galileo/Storm Cat cross produced Misty For Me who didn’t see out the trip in the Oaks. Marvellous might indeed improve for the extra half-mile but I don’t think it is a given as the current betting seems to indicate.
May 29, 2014 at 12:54 #480480Marvellous continues to shorten. It appears that punters are just assuming that she will stay the extra half-mile. Yes, she finished off the Guineas well (albeit with a pretty horrible scratchy action) but it almost certainly wasn’t a great renewal and the second would have preferred less testing conditions. Her dam didn’t win beyond six furlongs and was well beaten on her only venture beyond a mile. It seems most of the stamina input is going to have to come from the sire. It is probably worth noting the same Galileo/Storm Cat cross produced Misty For Me who didn’t see out the trip in the Oaks. Marvellous might indeed improve for the extra half-mile but I don’t think it is a given as the current betting seems to indicate.
I said this to TAPK weeks ago but to be fair to You’resothrilling I don’t think she can be labelled a sprinter. Her wins at six furlongs were as a two year old and on her only starts as a three year old she ‘stayed on close home’ over a mile to be beaten just a length and a quarter in the Group 1 Matron Stakes, before being beaten just six lengths over 10 furlongs in the Prix de l’Opera. I think it’s fair to say she stayed at least a mile and maybe a bit further.
May 29, 2014 at 18:15 #480501I haven’t had a bet but my advice would be to wait and see if the ground dries out. If it does I would be pretty surprised if Taghrooda is beaten. There wasn’t really a second on her seasonal debut so I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the performances of the trailers. She ran through the line in a manner that suggested that given another couple of furlongs the winning margin could have been 10-15 lengths. Yes, I think Hanagan is always a negative but assuming he gets her out on terms he should be able to sit handy and kick early. With the best horse in front and potential trouble in behind it could easily be a big winning margin. On the other hand if the ground doesn’t dry it is guesswork as to what she could cope with and I would be inclined to look for something each-way at a double figure price.
May 29, 2014 at 22:39 #480527I haven’t had a bet but my advice would be to wait and see if the ground dries out. If it does I would be pretty surprised if Taghrooda is beaten. There wasn’t really a second on her seasonal debut so I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the performances of the trailers. She ran through the line in a manner that suggested that given another couple of furlongs the winning margin could have been 10-15 lengths. Yes, I think Hanagan is always a negative but assuming he gets her out on terms he should be able to sit handy and kick early. With the best horse in front and potential trouble in behind it could easily be a big winning margin. On the other hand if the ground doesn’t dry it is guesswork as to what she could cope with and I would be inclined to look for something each-way at a double figure price.
It has to be agreed that we probably shouldn’t have expected much from those who ran behind Taghrooda in the Pretty Polly because she pretty much routed them that day. Most of those who came out of the race went on run on softer or very much softer going on their next starts, which might have been why they performed disappointingly. It is a slight concern that they were quite as rank as they have been though, a little glimmer of something would have boosted confidence.
John Gosden has said that soft ground is not Taghrooda’s favourite surface and he reckons you can make a good case for half a dozen fillies in the race. Dermot Weld won’t run Tarfasha if it is soft and yet again it has been said Shamkala’s main priority is the French Oaks. Ihtimal is solid but a bit exposed and I can’t have Marvellous at 3/1, where she now shares favouritism in places. All in all, I can’t share the feeling that there are six solid contenders in the field and it could just be that the one filly who actually gets the trip on the day will be the triumphant one. Taghrooda has an excellent chance of being that one filly.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
June 1, 2014 at 13:46 #480854Shamkala has been withdrawn from the Oaks. Shockarooni, who could have seen that coming? The trainer stated about a million times that she was going for the French Oaks, yet she was as low as 7/1 for Epsom. Pricewise horse Sinnamary is also out, along with Musidora flop Cambridge, who was also a ridiculous price at one stage, based on a maiden win. Unsurprisingly Rizeena and Lightning Thunder won’t be taking part either.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
June 1, 2014 at 18:57 #480892Yeah, a bookie trick do you think Steve in trying to get punters into believing Shamkala will be running and is being backed off the board in an attempt to lure in the lemons to follow.?
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