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    A few whispers have been doing the rounds for a while now that Gosden’s Antarah is out for the season following a bad setback. Been taken out the Derby betting by a few firms the last week but nothing confirmed as of yet officially.

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    Pity. I did have a small punt on him at 20/1 because he did look very good on debut.

    That is the chance you take with ante-post betting, I suppose.

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    Antarah is not entered for the Dante which you would expect if all was well. I quite like Magisteral who does have a Dante entry and has good breeding. By Frankel and out of a Darshaan Mare.

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    While one should never jump to conclusions the colt that “might be more than a Maiden and might be a Derby horse is, err, still a Maiden.”

    Should win one, though.

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    It was ok, got boxed in when he needed a run, and had to come round. Will see what he does next time, probably in a Derby trial.

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    I’d have thought they’d want to win a Maiden with him first.

    Time will tell.

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    Could do, dunno.

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    Not sure I would be a hurry to ever back him, even in a maiden. Perhaps it is unfair to judge him after one run but he looks like another slowcoach in the mould of High Definition and Wordsworth.

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    It is tough to envisage a scenario in which he would be what might be called a value bet.

    Nice sort, should win a Maiden (but will be odds-on) but unlikely to be a Derby colt.

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    Too early to know. Horses can improve. Like Serpentine.

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    Fair comment, and I did think about Serpentine, but he won The Derby in Covid year when the race wasn’t run until July, so he had more time to progress.

    I see Waterville is currently 30 for The Derby at Betfair Exchange.

    Can’t say I’m tempted tbh.

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    The ‘Coolmore National Hunt Stallions’ Stakes (Registered as The Derby).

    BUY THE SUN

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    “I see Waterville is currently 30 for The Derby at Betfair Exchange.”

    If he was trained by just about anyone else, he would probably not even be quoted. How can that price be taken seriously, based purely on the Ballydoyle hype.

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    I agree, tbh.

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    O’Brien confirmed will go for a maiden then to ascot

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    I’ll have to find another one talked up by the master ;o)

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    I get it insomuch as if you latch onto one that goes all the way you can be sitting on a nice ante-post bet.

    But some of these ante-post quotes for Maidens are ludicrous as the vast majority don’t make the grade.

    Talk means nothing and I’d want at least 66/1 about any unraced colt from any yard before I’d even think about backing it for a Classic.

    But that’s never on offer as the bookies know plenty of punters will get involved based on hype at odds lower than 33/1.

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