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I seem to recall, and I must confess I dont know whether is true or not, that there was a story that the mounted section of the Dubai Police Force was made up in part by very slow off-spring of Sadlers Wells. Got a feeling that quite a number of the Ballydoyle Galileo’s 3 year old colys this year might have similarly unglamorous future careers.
The Dante looks a good race and whoever wins it is likely to start fav for The Derby I reckon. I am intrigued by the entry of Wings Of Desire. He looks an out and out stayer of some potential so interesting that JG is bringing him back in trip in a race of this quality. I think if Midterm can beat this lot impressively he would finally be a worthy favourite.
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The Dante looks a good race and whoever wins it is likely to start fav for The Derby I reckon. I am intrigued by the entry of Wings Of Desire. He looks an out and out stayer of some potential so interesting that JG is bringing him back in trip in a race of this quality. I think if Midterm can beat this lot impressively he would finally be a worthy favourite.
Wings Of Desire is attracting money and the alarm bells are out for Foundation, who is friendless at 6/1. The vibes suggest Foundation is a bust, with his 22lb lower rated stable mate shorter than him with some firms.
Had there been any confidence in Foundation, Wings Of Desire surely wouldn’t be running here and the fact that Frankie is declared to be riding both colts is a worrying sign for me.
I thought Foundation was feeble in the Craven, yet some pundits seemed to be in denial, stating that the weather was the cause of him looking very ordinary and maintaining that Gosden was making a mistake ruling him out as a Guineas horse.
I would be seriously concerned for Foundation in the Dante and even running in the Derby based on what is going on in the build up to the Dante. As my old Dad used to say, “If it looks like a ham shanker, smells like a ham shanker and sounds like a ham shanker, it’s usually a ham shanker”
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Well it cant’t be any worse than the 8 that lined up against Camelot. I wonder if Harzand is still on course, his win in the Ballysax looks even better now but 25/1 is strangely big?
Harzand is still a possible for Epsom but it seems unlikely. The trainer said the horse is a big sort who needs ease in the ground and they feel he is more likely to run in the Irish Derby. Pat Smullen told Dermot Weld he though the Doncaster St Leger would suit the horse. Dermot feels the second half of the season is where the horse may come good.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Got a feeling and a confidence that Midterm wins the dante impressively and goes very short for Epsom.
Think this colt is a cut above anything else going for the Derby this year
Aiden still banging on about US Army Ranger but think he’s clutching at straws
Can’t get an angle on this Derby at all
Midterm is the only viable selection for me at the moment. Have taken the 3s.
Of course after Thursday we will know much more…….
So you think he’s been pretty ordinary yet Port Douglas is your each way bet?
From the horses who finished behind the front two in the vase compared to the Sandown classic trial and the proximity of the pacemaker in the derrinstown makes the form of the vase as good as,if not better than anything else. You would expect us army ranger to improve greatly but it was port Douglass first run.He definitely stays the 12f and I suspect he improved greatly on the good ground. Who can confidently pick the winner just now and I can see pd running into a place.3/1 midterm is very poor value to me. Time will tell.
Think Port Douglas is short of derby winning class for me (although could pick off the Irish derby which tends to be a weaker version)
But who knows. Gl with your bet.
I doubt port Douglas will win but with doubts about so many others he looks a solid if unspectacular horse. There’s usually a decently priced horse in the first three so here’s hoping.
Delighted for Wings of Desire – my pick of the day at Newmarket in April. What a great trainer John Gosden is. The way this horse is improving he has to be high on the list for Epsom.
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I wouldn’t be put of my Midterm, It was just an awful awful ride by Pat. 15 lengths down at York absolutely no chance, think he will run big in Derby. I agree he ran a stinker but Pat never gave him a chance to win the race.
No need for Minding now in the Derby I would think. AOB must know exactly where he stands now based on Deauville’s run. If US Army Ranger is indeed better than him as they seem to think, then the winner is quite likely to come out of the Chester Vase. But, even if not, I would hardly write off the possibility that Deauville could turn the form around with Wings Of Desire. It was his first run of the season, had a fairly tough trip racing without cover outside the leader and was in front for a very long time on a longer final straight than Epsom. It’s perfectly possible for AOB to win the Derby without Minding, and he will need her if he is to win the Oaks which is going Gosden’s way otherwise.
Delighted for Wings of Desire – my pick of the day at Newmarket in April. What a great trainer John Gosden is. The way this horse is improving he has to be high on the list for Epsom.
I thought it was a hammer blow for the quality of the race.
Midterm was clearly overrated for his Trial win and that throws doubt on Algometer, who had allegedly improved massively along with the Stoute horse in that race at Sandown.
I think every sane person in the Universe, apart from Harry Herbert knew Foundation was done for. Harry’s statement about not reading much into it has to be one of the most ludicrous and ingenuous pieces of bull ever pointed at the racing public.
This is the worst Derby I think I can recall.
Surely Cloth Of Stars must come over for this now. Jim McGrath had the cheek to say he didn’t think his win last week was good form. I would put it on a par with the rubbish we have seen everywhere else.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Midterm is dead in the water now. He’s 14/1 and it’s game over for him.
Generally 4/1 US Army Ranger and 5/1 Wings Of Desire.
Those two horses were a Million to one in the ante-post betting early doors and the bookies have had a screamer on the ante-post book this year.
What was the rating of the lowest rated Derby winner? We could be in that territory this year I feel.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Delighted for Wings of Desire – my pick of the day at Newmarket in April. What a great trainer John Gosden is. The way this horse is improving he has to be high on the list for Epsom.
Agreed Joni.
Glad to see my long range ante-post bet (after his 2nd in the Royal Lodge) Deauville run well there. Must be over whatever ailed him at Doncaster. Cheek pieces used in Racing Post and tongue strap here (which put me off a bit) but the appendage seems to have worked. Mile and a half bound to suit him well, appearing outpaced late today. Can’t see why US Ranger should be so much shorter.
However, considering the Dante winner Wings Of Desire’s only been racing a month – surely has a lot more improvement to come and will be hard to beat if acting on a firm surface and/or the track. Bred to be more effective at 1m4f than 1m2f; then again he’s bred to refuse to race (Sariska)! Was expecting 3/1 or less, get on if you can get anything like 5/1 (taken 9/2 on the machine).
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