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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    It could only be a preference to Newmarket and the distance of 10 furlongs which has prompted Jim Bolger to side with this race ahead of the Arc.

    A crying shame if Phoenix Tower is declared a non-runner, after Archipenko was ruled out.

    Will O’Brien be represented by a filly?

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    nefertiti
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    AOB has said he is preparing Hebridean for the race.

    However, like you, MDeering, I wonder if he will run a filly as well. (Hebridean is a gelding, and Coolmore would not have a problem with one of their fillies beating him.)

    O’Brien has stated that Halfway to Heaven may go to the US for either the Mile or the Filly and Mare Turf. The first race should be for Henry surely, and either Listen or You’resothrilling would be more likely than HTH to get the 11 furlongs of the filly race. If she is ready to race again after her exertions in the Sun Chariot, why not try her against the boys, especially since the race seems to be cutting up.

    Obviously, today’s 5 day decs will clarify the picture. HTH, Listen and YST are all entered at this point – but this afternoon?

    All of them would have a mountain to climb in the Champion, of course, but I’d love to see Halfway to Heaven run.

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    Avatar photoHimself
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    I think New Approach must have an outstanding chance in this race

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    #184635
    nefertiti
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    Yes, can anything beat New Approach in this weak renewal of a race that is really suffering because of its proximity to the Breeders’ Cup meeting?

    Full of Gold and Linngari are the other (weak) Group 1 winners in the lineup, but I can’t see either of them being up to the task. Will Russian Cross/Twice Over/Famous Name provide the competition?

    Sorry not to see any of the fillies run.

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    Yes, can anything beat New Approach in this weak renewal of a race that is really suffering because of its proximity to the Breeders’ Cup meeting?

    No cant see anything other then a New Approach victory. it is a shame with the Arc weekend and Breeders cup so close together that this race suffers because you would want to see the Derby winner taking on the better horses.

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    Even against this seemingly modest opposition, New Approach remains vulnerable over 10f on what could well be fast ground.
    His last two efforts over this trip are certainly nothing to write home about; a 3.5l defeat by DOM, with the 117 rated Pipedreamer at his quarters, and a hard fought 0.5l win from the modest Traffic Guard, with stayer Mores Wells only just over a length behind them wouldn’t see me rush to take the even money, even with the guarantee of a run.
    Upton Grey looks to have been put in to make the pace for the favourite, but that’s no foregone conclusion given his record to date, and with the rest of the opposition within a pound or two of each other, the whole race looks like an accident waiting to happen imo.

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    I like lightly raced 3yo colts for this, so will have a small win on Famous Name, but not with any degree of confidence. If i wasn’t attending, i’d probably leave well alone.

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    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Phoenix Tower has been retired to stud.

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    This race is littered with ‘the form horses’ not being able to run up to their summers best. New Approach has gone backwards since the Derby and for me there is a doubt as to whether he could be relied to run up to that level. I’ll happily take him on.

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    New Approach should win this.

    At 5/4 I’d be inclined to take him on though….possibly with Twice Over.

    If Famous Name isnt rode like a twit (a la Longchamp – Arc Day) i’d be inclined to have an EW nibble there too at 16s

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    Famous Name did not run in the Irish 2,000 Guineas due to the firmness of the ground, and I’d be hesitant to play him if the ground holds up like a road on Saturday.

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    Avatar photoPeter Poston’s Ghost
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    Love to see Twice Over win it.

    Henry’s gone close in a few G1 contests this year and deserves to win one.

    Obviously NA and Russian Cross are shortlisted as well.

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    Interesting money for Fabre’s runner today.

    #184767
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    Interesting money for Fabre’s runner today.

    Might just be the hype due to Fabre supplementing the horse for this. The market seems to turn when Fabre does bring one over here but I think Russian Cross will get beaten here.

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    French trainers have a reasonable record in this last couple of years?

    #184790
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    Twice Over for me. 3/3 at Newmarket, solid each way bet at 13/2.

    #184825
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Might just be the hype due to Fabre supplementing the horse for this. The market seems to turn when Fabre does bring one over here …

    Examples?

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