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Elaine Burke – denied a training licence

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    davidjohnson
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    Well done BHA.

    #261510
    Glenn
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    A rare example of a battle won in a war which is increasingly looking like one-way traffic in the other direction.

    Anyone watching Lingfield this afternoon would be forgiven for thinking we’re back to the days of Red Lancer.

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    Venusian
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    Who is Elaine Burke?

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    davidjohnson
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    Wife of one of the banned K. Burkes. Daughter of the caretaker.

    #261570
    Venusian
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    Thanks!

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    bluechariot
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    Does anyone think Karl will get his licence restored after serving his ban ?

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    I dont know where I stand on this, Karl Burke shouldn’t be the scapegoat yet what he done was wrong – like Fifa and the Eduardo case, if you’re going to stamp the law down then I am pretty sure we wouldnt have more than 20 yards in operation and 10% of those in which BHA wouldn’t have the bottle to cease.

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    Tom
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    did Elaine have the correct qualifications to get a license?

    If she has, could the racing authorities be 100% sure that her husband would not make one decision connected with the training of the horses till his year’s suspension was up?

    With the latter I feel it would have been impossible to have given such an assurance, so the decision was the correct one.

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    The BHA could refuse like they did with Darren Williams.

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    what i cant understand with the amounts of money involved how firstly they can get away with just being banned..
    and secoundly how theres so many banned jockeys now back in the weighing room?
    and how come in a short space of time panorama dug up so much yet the bha dont manage to find anything?.that alone to me is suspicious..
    on top of this i have emailed the bha about various jockeys BACK AT IT and all they seem to say is that banning dean mckeon makes it all ok.
    time that the security side of racing was delt with by the police and not the inside mob curently running our once proud sport..
    its a joke that national newspapers and tv stations have to do all the whistle blowing.

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    time that the security side of racing was delt with by the police and not the inside mob curently running our once proud sport..

    The police have proved on more than one occasion when cases have gone to court that they know the square root of **** all about horse racing, so they are hardly likely to be the panacea for any racing integrity issues.

    If the police were get involved in racing integrity they would recruit from those with knowledge of horse racing, and that is thosde currently involved in horse racing in one capacity or another.

    Rob

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    i disagree
    though it might mean a change in the law because failing to ride out is at the moment just a disapline issue for the jockey club..
    this does not take into consideration the fraud angle on the genral public who i think are not getting fair play..
    take robert winston he earns a lot more than some jockeys and still had to have players in the laying markets to increase his income.
    but worse still even when caught it took him long enough to admit his invovement..
    in wot other walk of life would he of got his job back??? (politics dont count).
    so what does this teach other jockeys on lower income?
    oh winston,kelly,and brad are back so i might not even get caught?.
    yes i know that every race aint bent but the pot has to be allowed to fill b4 u can empty it?
    it all needs looking at by legal minds OUTSIDE OF RACING.
    its a LEGAL matter NOT a horsey one.

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    Point taken, but those dealing with it are on a hiding to nothing if they don’t know enough about their subject. Past evidence suggests that within the law enforcement ‘industry’ there isn’t the racing knowledge required to get sufficent results. That doesn’t mean you can’t get results, but to do so you have to at least tap into the knowledge base within the sport.

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    i just cant help but see a more of this type of thing they need life bans not talks with stable staff on how to spin in public.
    they are not taking a tough enough line and i fear that drugs being more widely used is making things worse..
    i once new a nice lad rob waterfield he was begining to ride winners..
    2years later a heroin addict….now dead…

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    i once new a nice lad rob waterfield he was begining to ride winners..
    2years later a heroin addict….now dead…

    Sadly more a comment on trends in society rather than anything peculiar to racing.

    #266740
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    thats true and it makes people more likely to offend..
    carnaby who use to write for sporting life gave evidence for rob in court but alass he was a hopeless case by then

    #266741
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    Re: Elaine Burke – denied a training licence

    Post by robnorth » 31 Dec 2009 17:37

    frankieturf wrote:i once new a nice lad rob waterfield he was begining to ride winners..
    2years later a heroin addict….now dead…

    [b:6d9bylrg]Sadly more a comment on trends in society rather than anything peculiar to racing.

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    Not quite. The pressures on jockeys can be very difficult. They have to do as they are told and produce the results required of them, whether that be win or lose.

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