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There are good and not so good tipsters but in my opinion most of them have 2 fatal flaws
1) They tip too many favourites
2) They believe everything they are told by Trainers,Owner and Jockeys
1) Is not really their fault, unless they are Spotlight in the Racing Post dealing with one card, they have to tip in every race. In reality they mght look at half a dozen races seriously and just tip whatever looks like its going to be favourite in the others because its the safe bet. If you check out the RP Press Challenge the percentage of favs tipped goes from 43% to 49%. Also just by the act of them tipping a horse can cause the 2nd fav or 3rd fav to become fav so its a vicious circle. The Spotlight guys also tend to tip too many favs but usually there’s one race where they appear to disregard the obvious choices and go for a bit of a punt..and its not obvious what the reasoning is.
Thats because of 2) above, they can’t write ‘Trainer X told me that So and So has been laid out for this so you can disregard its last 6 appalling runs’ So they resort to ‘An interesting outsider is So and So,now runnig off the same mark as its last win in 0-80 company’ (Yeah, 18 months ago on different ground)…The problem is that Trainer X only looks at his own runner in isolation and tends to have an inflated opinion of the horses ability,racing journalists love being ‘in the know’ so they will quite happily tip something with little or no chance just because a Trainer or Owner tells them something has been ‘flying at home’ or ‘it had a breathing problem but we’ve sorted it out’. The mighty Doug Moscrop of the Newcastle Journal is a total sucker for this stuff, to be fair he tips less favourites than anybody on the planet except Tom Segall, but his selections usually leave you scratching your head
Anyway, NO, I have never followed any tipster!
The more I think about it the harder I find it to envisage Robin Goodfellow while writing for the Daily Mail with a 1PM deadline, finding the time or the inclination to spend the afternoon in the bookies.
I would have thought a lunch paid for by somebody else in the name of research and then back to the office to start work on his next column more likely.
Only newspaper tipster I ever followed was Richard Baerlein. Two a day he gave plus ante-post recommendations from time to time if I remember it right. I don’t know if he showed a level stakes profit or not but I loved his Guardian column and usually had a few shillings on his suggestions.
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K"Only newspaper tipster I ever followed was Richard Baerlein. Two a day he gave plus ante-post recommendations from time to time if I remember it right. I don’t know if he showed a level stakes profit or not but I loved his Guardian column and usually had a few shillings on his suggestions."
I was a big fan of Richard as well, a must read and much missed.
Colin
Newspaper tipsters worth reading:
Donn McLean in the Irish Sunday Times
Graham Wheldon in the RFO
Our own TDK in the Post.
Most of the others- pass.Newspaper tipsters worth reading:
Donn McLean in the Irish Sunday Times
Graham Wheldon in the RFO
Our own TDK in the Post.
Most of the others- pass.In fairness, many newspaper tipsters are worth listening to and decent judges to boot, but it’s a thankless task tipping horses a day before the event when many of the most important variables are unknown. In the good old days, most had a half decent byline to write which made them worth reading but with today’s pared down coverage in the national press, they are doing the jobs of performing monkeys.
Eddie Fremantle and Sam Turner are two who haven’t been mentioned who I’d vouch for, while I was very impressed by the work ethic of Phil Logan on the one occasion I had to deal with him. If Chompy deserves a mention, then I’d gladly throw in a plug for Mounty who does a very similar role at Raceform (I’ll refrain from mentioning Peter Naughton). We could even classify Spotlight writers as tipsters, in which case I could kiss even more ass……….
Ron Cox who wrote in the Observer gave some good tips for York the following week, and also tipped a good winner at Uttoxeter that day, but I’ve just realized that post Eddie they seem to have several people writing for them. I shall keep an eye on Ron Cox [whoever he is] in the future.
Use your eyes and what you have between your ears and you will do just as well as newspaper tipsters.
No…but I do follow their ratings compilers with some success.
Currently, the Daily Express and the Guardian are the most effective IMHO.Powered by Linux
How much do these national newspaper tipsters get paid?
Less than the .5 to 1% pro players .
More than the 95% (at least) net losing recreational players.
Whenever the Daily Express (whoever he was/is) tipped something that nobody else had I would back it blindly and with some success too. 33’s, 25’s and all sorts of nice priced winners.
Of course I now know far too much for my own good and like to fail on my own with no help required thanks!
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