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Definitely not the ride of the week, Certificate 18 infact.

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  • #15790
    Avatar photoMatthew01
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    Ahmed Ajtebi, 6:30 Epsom on the well backed Book Keeper.

    Will think twice about backing ANYTHING he’s on now.

    Not the pocket talking, have a butchers yourself.

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    I’d be upset too, but at Hayley Turners antics aboard the winner, rather than Ajtebi.

    He appeared to make the correct move, if a bit daring, by going for the rail initially, and had the door slam shut by Turner. He sits, waits, before angling out wide before noticing the gap on the rail opening again, but an even larger one; Hayley then shuts the door AGAIN on him. If I were a steward, I’d throw the winner out and ban Hayley Turner.

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    Ahmed Ajtebi, 6:30 Epsom on the well backed Book Keeper.

    Will think twice about backing ANYTHING he’s on now.

    Not the pocket talking, have a butchers yourself.

    Ajtebi is a complete disaster over here, always has been.

    Was on the bad list years ago. Even Harvey and Weaver have a go at him and they always try to protect jockeys, even they can’t defend him…

    Hes talented in Dubai but leaves his racing brain behind him when over here

    #309744
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    Even Rishi laughing at Ajtebi when calling the result haha

    Fair enough the gap closed originally but then he has the chance to switch wide but yet again he opts to go down the rail.

    Why ask a green two year such a difficult task??

    Just a terrible jockey

    #309748
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    Really bad that was, luckily Frankies put a smile on my face now.

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    He had two problems. Firstly the horse pulled too hard early on and had to be covered up. Secondly it looked to me as if the horse was struggling with the camber up the straight. When pulled out in an attempt to challenge on the stands’ side he seemed to lug back down the slope and that left Ajtebi with little choice but to hope for a gap to appear up the inside.

    In retrospect though I would imagine Ajtebi would approach the race a bit differently. I suggest that the trainer would look for a flat galloping track next time as well.

    Incidentally in case you are doubtful about the effect of the camber at Epsom I suggest a look down the straight if you visit the course. It’s obvious why many horses will be seriously inconvenienced, and in the case the effect is accentuated by a field of inexperienced two-year-olds.

    Rob

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    With respect, Rob, surely

    Hayley Turner

    is the only reason Ajtebi didn’t get his mount in front on the line, regardless of how the horse acted on the track.

    One could have driven three Denmans up the gap that appeared on the rail the second time, if Hayley hadn’t of purposely shifted back over.

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    Surely excuses cannot be made for this ride.

    2 year olds are inexperiences every day of the week, jockeys know that.

    This was a bad ride, no excuses, just a bad ride…

    If you are willing to make excuses for this one then no ride can ever be a bad one.

    On the other hand I thought Hayley was very good from the front..

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    Joncol

    Well apart from the fact that the horse was too keen early on and clearly didn’t handle the camber in the straight. I don’t think it was a good ride, but circumstances didn’t help either.

    That aside Hayley Turner did nothing more than she was entitled too and deservedly took the race.

    Rob

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    Thas fair enough, good points and I accept the difficulty regarding the track.

    I misunderstood and thought you were trying to shift full blame for defeat on conditions and away from jockey error.

    My mistake..

    #309851
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    Joncol

    Well apart from the fact that the horse was too keen early on and clearly didn’t handle the camber in the straight. I don’t think it was a good ride, but circumstances didn’t help either.

    That aside Hayley Turner did nothing more than she was entitled too and deservedly took the race.

    Rob

    Was she

    really

    entitled to take back the rail position after giving it up, soley in order to stop Ajtebis manouvre, causing him to snatch up? Maybe I need to brush up on the rules! :?

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    Turner slammed the door shut in very impressive style when Atjebi want for the inside rail on the second occasion. Who knows if it was intentional to block Atjebi’s mount off or not. It would hardly be a surprising thing for a jockey to do with the excessively liberal interference rules currently in-place in Britain.

    But, Matthew, why would Atjebi be a jockey to avoid based on this one ride? He’s certainly not great, and arguably not very good, but he’s not a 7lb penalty to every horse.

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    Ahmed Ajtebi, 6:30 Epsom on the well backed Book Keeper.

    Will think twice about backing ANYTHING he’s on now.

    Not the pocket talking, have a butchers yourself.

    Ajtebi is a complete disaster over here, always has been.

    Was on the bad list years ago. Even Harvey and Weaver have a go at him and they always try to protect jockeys, even they can’t defend him…

    Hes talented in Dubai but leaves his racing brain behind him when over here

    Godolphin are a disaster, not the jockey.

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    I’ve been a fan of Ajtebi in the past but have come to realise that was my pocket talking. I can’t recall the last horse I backed him on especially this season. He looks completely out of his depth when it comes to riding a horse out. Completely incapable of switching hands with the whip and his steering is often questionable at best. He really needs a back to basics refresher course, twelve months riding billy goats at some far flung rough house location and another two years on the practice rocking horse to build up his skill level.

    Just another long term embarassment for Sheik Momo and his flagging failure of an operation called Godolphin.

    #309891
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    I’ve been a fan of Ajtebi in the past but have come to realise that was my pocket talking. I can’t recall the last horse I backed him on especially this season. He looks completely out of his depth when it comes to riding a horse out. Completely incapable of switching hands with the whip and his steering is often questionable at best. He really needs a back to basics refresher course, twelve months riding billy goats at some far flung rough house location and another two years on the practice rocking horse to build up his skill level.

    Just another long term embarassment for Sheik Momo and his flagging failure of an operation called Godolphin.

    Why didn’t he just pull it wide and put the race to bed, that was embarrassing.

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    Why didn’t he just pull it wide and put the race to bed, that was embarrassing.

    That question takes me back to what was blindingly obvious during the race. The horse couldn’t handle the camber and when his rider did try to pull out to challenge on the stands’ side the horse just lugged back down the slope.

    If you should ever visit Epsom I suggest you stand at the end of the track and look back down the straight. There’s a fearsome slope from left to right across the course and to my mind Book Keeper couldn’t cope with it.

    Rob

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    The horse didnt lug down the slope when Munro rode him at Epsom on his debut….

    Ajtebi had him in a horrible possition and is to blame for the loss.

    Jockey got the horse beat, even if the horse did lug…

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