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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Well done Ruby

    I love Vincenzo but he doesn’t want to pass at the business end

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

    #1747464
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Thank you all. A brilliant Bowen ride from the front, but an error-free Jagwar would have been a very impressive winner. He left his hindlegs quite a few times in the birch.

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    Mike007
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    wd ExRubyLight

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    sergeantcecil
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    Nice one Ruby

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Jumping is the name of the game Ruby

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Thanks Mike and sarge. You’re right HDLG, but just imagine him being able to jump properly in addition to that engine.

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    GM23
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    WD Ruby. A cracking ride from Bowen that.

    I thought I was on the right one in Vincenzo but beginning to think he’s not genuine now.

    As for Jagwar. A phenomenal run with the worst jockey of the modern era onboard. That horse is probably of Grade 1 calibre but will never fulfil it with Jr onboard.

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    Mike007
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    “That horse is probably of Grade 1 calibre but will never fulfil it with Jr onboard.”

    A grade 1 horse?? Don’t see him beating Fact To File myself regardless of the jockey. Sticky jumper.

    #1747473
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Ends the crap about Bowen not being able to ride from the front ( it was nonsense as proven in last season’s Irish GN)
    He can judge pace

    #1747475
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Thanks GM. At 50s EW he is a bit tempting for the Ryanair, imo.

    #1747476
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
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    Well done Ruby.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1747477
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Thanks RTB.

    Looking at today’s times I doubt the going is good to soft. I’d rather think it’s quite fast. How many winners from the front? Three or so…

    #1747486
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Nice bet, ERL.

    Not taking anything away from the winner. He is clearly good and got the best ride from the best jockey.

    I just wonder if Vicenzo (my bet) might have gone closer if he had jumped the last more cleanly and landed with more momentum? He was iffy at one or two other fences as well. Not convinced by Johnston just yet.

    As for O’Neill, McManus needs to stop being sentimental. I didn’t back the horse but I think he would have won by two or three lengths with a competent jockey on board.

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    Thanks CAS. Agree with you about Jonjo jr. being the wrong jockey for so many horses trained by his father. Considering the traditional annual bug which seems to affect the stable with certainty, you don’t get much value for having a horse with them.

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    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    WD Ruby!

    Great ride by Bowen.

    #1747541
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Nice work, Ruby. What would he have won by if he’d been in the handicap?

    #1747544
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Thanks DBRDBR and Joe. Interesting to see that the horse was as high as 146 OR when with Willie. The new stable did a great job of lowering the handicap mark through the summer. However the 33/1 behind a horse attached to AP’s yard must mean that he told the syndicate something like: “Listen, I’m involved with the JP owned horses, this one (Jagwar) must be unbeatable, just like the rest. Don’t bother backing yours….”

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