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That first book of his was nothing special and quite thin, no great betting insights. All I seem to remember were negative words about the Richard Hannon’s, Paul Cole, Mark Prescott and Richard Hills and an account of what happens when ya claim a horse that is owned by a crime boss.
The George Duffield autobio is by far the best racing book I have read in recent times.
Anyone know if Brough Scotts book is worth buying?……..Helluva nice guy who would always stop for a few words if you were around a couple of hourse before racing…If Rory says Dave Nevison is in the same mould then that’s good enough for me but personally I wouldn’t know the guy if he was standing next to me.
I liked his quote which is clever even if it is somewhat innacurate I got the jist of it……….I think what he is rally saying is "Don’t believe what most trainers tell you as they don’t have a clue and if a trainer tells half the world when your horse is going for a touch he’s in the wrong yard"
Think I’ll write a book
Firts person who says I have already written several on here isfor the high jump Great quote on the front page of the racing post "Anone who believes what some trainers tell them is mad and any trainer who tells the truth is equally mad.
A conversation at a racecourse earlier this week:-
SP reporter:- "There has been decent money for horse x"
Me to the trainer who happened to be standing next to me:- "Is it your money?"
Trainer: – "No – the going is far too soft today. I nearly didn’t run him"
What happened?
A very impressive running on second, who seemed more than happy in the ground and the each way money was landed.
Great quote on the front page of the racing post "Anone who believes what some trainers tell them is mad and any trainer who tells the truth is equally mad.
Think he is dead right, especially when there could be a stud career on the cards.
Had Mr. Bolger said about New Approach after his two year old campaign:
"We are concerned about the horses temperament and ability to handle Epsom’s preliminaries, therefore we will aim him at this stage at the Irish Derby".
Then after the Irish 2000 said "We are now worried (after a comparitively poor run in the Ire 2000 on a firm surface) whether he is as good on firm ground and his ability toget over a hard race before Epsom".
Both these statements would not have been good for his stud career. A horse with temperament problems and an inability to handle firmish ground.
Of course we know NA made a speedier recovery and when there was cut at Epsom there was no point waiting for the Currrah, when it could come up firm.
Also, trainers have to take in to account what the owners want the public to know. It is easy for Paul Nicholls to be free with information. If a small trainer was to say a few words out of line the owner could take the horse elsewhere.
Mark
Value Is EverythingPhil Bull’s opinions on betting and horseracing is much more illuminating and certainly more insightful than anything Mr. Nevison proffers on the subjects.
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Phil Bull’s opinions on betting and horseracing is much more illuminating and certainly more insightful than anything Mr. Nevison proffers on the subjects.
We agree Himself,
Dave Nevison’s first book I found o.k. but it did not teach me anything new.
Don’t expect him to tell you how he comes to each selection.He may make a profit but from what I read he is not a nice bloke.
Phil Bull, Timeform and our own AP have taught me a great deal more.
Mark
The Ginger Preacher.Value Is EverythingAnyone that bought Nevison’s book as a betting guide was bound to be disappointed, though to be fair to him and the publishers, it was never marketed as that so the point you raise Himself is hardly valid.
I think you’re missing the point; Dave isn’t a betting expert and doesn’t claim to be. He’s a punter, and if he has anything to teach us it’s more likely to be a cautionary tale rather than a treatise on the handicap system. As for not being a nice person, I’ve no idea what is in the book but was speaking to Mark Bradburne who apparently comes out badly in one of Dave’s anecdotes. The fact that the two of them can laugh about that now shows that while Dave is miles removed from being a model citizen, he’s a very likeable character.
Anyone that bought Nevison’s book as a betting guide was bound to be disappointed, though to be fair to him and the publishers, it was never marketed as that so the point you raise Himself is hardly valid.
Come off it David, the name of his first book surely suggested it might have a few good pointers for winner finding, "A Bloody Good Winner".
I certainly did not buy it to hear about adultery and slagging off of others.
Mark
Value Is EverythingAnyone that bought Nevison’s book as a betting guide was bound to be disappointed, though to be fair to him and the publishers, it was never marketed as that so the point you raise Himself is hardly valid.
Come off it David, the name of his first book surely suggested it might have a few good pointers for winner finding, "A Bloody Good Winner".
And one of Dettori’s books is called The Magnificent Seven: Seven Winners In A Day – did you think that was a guide to backing horses through the card?
The fact that Nevison’s book is listed as autobiography might be a clue.
On a personal level, I’ve had relatively favorable reports about his personality off screen – all this character assassination is a little distasteful.
I think you’re missing the point; Dave isn’t a betting expert and doesn’t claim to be. He’s a punter, and if he has anything to teach us it’s more likely to be a cautionary tale rather than a treatise on the handicap system. As for not being a nice person, I’ve no idea what is in the book but was speaking to Mark Bradburne who apparently comes out badly in one of Dave’s anecdotes. The fact that the two of them can laugh about that now shows that while Dave is miles removed from being a model citizen, he’s a very likeable character.
Rory,
You say Dave is not a betting expert?
Well he thinks he is.He is supposedly a punter that made good. A professional punter.
If Mark Bradburne laughs about it, could it not be that he does not want people to make more of it. If he were to say anything else it would get more publicity. Therefore Bradburne has no choice but to laugfh it off.
Most of the people in the mafia are "nice characters".
Mark
Value Is Everything"Most of the people in the mafia are "nice characters"."
…………….and how many of those do you know, Mark?
Colin
Was Nevison’s first book designed to be anything other than a light, frothy, mildly entertaining waltz through a ‘racing celebrity’s’ life?
A dense 8pt-arial book on betting theory wouldn’t have ‘shifted much copy’ to the target audience of wannabe Cincinnati Kid’s would it? And sales into four-figures was all the author was really concerned with I’d imagine: easy-peasy wedge betting-bank bound.
Still quite like dear old DN, though is now thoroughly exposed
The new tome has been requested as a stocking filler. Off to Help The Aged in February I expect.
"Most of the people in the mafia are "nice characters"."
…………….and how many of those do you know, Mark?
Colin
There is no such thing as the mafia.
The mafia (allegedly) "looked after" a lot of normal people so as to get a "they are not so bad, look what they did for little Paulo", reputation, "they are really nice guys".
My point is anyone can look like a "nice character". Not that I am comparing Mr. Nevison with the Mafia. I wonder if his ex thinks he’s a nice character.
To answer,
Have met a few characters at the races I have my doubts about Colin. shock:Mark
Value Is EverythingAnyone know why he hasn’t been on RUK for some time?
because he gives punters good advice and a good steer.
Bookies don’t appreciate that.
Now we get BOOKIES GIVING PUNTERS ADVICE ON WHAT TO BACK!!!!!!
Always tickled me to death, that. And they keep such a straight face, bookie and interviewer!
Firefox, the only direct exhortation from a trainer I can remember, which was publicly accessible, from a trusted source and crucially, from a stable which you would not expect to be giving out presents was when Barry Hills wrote in the Racing Post that a horse called My Branch would win a stakes race at Doncaster in the mid nineties.
His confident statement was so shocking to me that I shovelled money on and was rewarded with a 4/1 winner. To my knowledge he has never repeated this generosity. Trainers like "Cheerful" Clive and more recently, the pathologically optimistic George Margarson (who can forget that first time out juvenile at Nottingham he tipped to RUK viewers at 33/1 as "his best 2-y-o and primed to win", before it was beaten a furlong), are always pumping up their horses. But when Barry Hills says something like that, I believed him. So I suppose it depends on individual differences.
No comment to make on Mr Nevison except to say that even if I was a successful punter with money beyond my wildest dreams, I’d snap RUK/ATR’s hand off to appear on the telly.
Firts person who says I have already written several on here isfor the high jump 
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