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You’re a decent bloke Mark. And the vast majority of your posts are interesting and informative. Hope you feel better soon.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Hope you feel better soon.
I always "feel" about the same Joni, it isn’t until levels are very low that I feel a hypo might come on, and I was not near that stage. Levels have been easily rectified once I knew the (possible) problem and am A1 again.
Value Is EverythingYou’re a decent bloke Mark. And the vast majority of your posts are interesting and informative. Hope you feel better soon.
Teeth firmly gritted!
I agree with Joni! 
You were beginning to sound a bit like the old TAPK Mark and it just doesn’t suit you.I look back at our little tet ar tets and they only reflect our passion about the game.You believe in a certain way and I believe in the right way! 
We still end up trying to achieve the same goal though.I’m going to send you a box of Mars Bars through the post so the next time you feel like you’re going to go off on one about percentages,I mean Blood sugar levels,take a bite!
Seriously though having been at the forefront of battles on here over the past 4 years and having had to get quite firm with some,you are the only person I have given a quarter too,the rest I’ve knocked out verbally even though I’d prefer violence,its still the best way to resolve a dispute,No weapons other than those we were born with.You just cant beat a good old ‘fisty’ cuff.You advocate the Pen is mightier than the Sword and at times you are a master of it.Keep up the good work and dont allow your confidence to wane…I dont!Blimey, all this talk of form, you’re beginning to read like Gingertipster. Not related perchance?
I assure you that’s a 66-1 (1.49%) chance.
I sort of take your point Ivan, but I was really commenting on the enduring legend of Golden Cygnet rather than the current demise of Darlan. GC was very probably the (potentially) greatest horse we have lost on the racecourse in living memory.
He’s still frequently referenced even today and the reality is people will not be remembering Darlan in 35 years time. Sorry, it’s cruel perhaps, but they just won’t.
Mike
…the rest I’ve knocked out verbally even though I’d prefer violence,its still the best way to resolve a dispute,No weapons other than those we were born with.You just cant beat a good old ‘fisty’ cuff.
That reminds me… " My Big Gypsy Valentine " is on next Tuesday – Ch4.
[ The Anglicised version
] :Ah would the power the gift give us, to see ourselves as others see us,
It would from many a blunder free us and foolish notion 
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
Wishing you the best of health Mark
When Darlan lost his life on Monday, I was livid. It is always difficult to comprehend the loss of a fine horse who’s blessed with immense talent. It brought back bitter memories of Celtic Ryde, Ekbalco and Noddy’s Ryde who perished under comparable circumstances.
We never really fell out though did we. It was just a difference of opinion that got a touch hot.
Some inkblots can be erased
Kindest regards.
Rob
even though I’d prefer violence,its still the best way to resolve a dispute,No weapons other than those we were born with.You just cant beat a good old ‘fisty’ cuff.
Good God.
Mike
Wishing you the best of health Mark
When Darlan lost his life on Monday, I was livid. It is always difficult to comprehend the loss of a fine horse who’s blessed with immense talent. It brought back bitter memories of Celtic Ryde, Ekbalco and Noddy’s Ryde who perished under comparable circumstances.
We never really fell out though did we. It was just a difference of opinion that got a touch hot.
Some inkblots can be erased
Kindest regards.
Rob
Much appreciated Rob.
I think we both let the death of a horse we love cloud our judgement. Correct, no falling out, just a difference of opinion.I feel a bit of a fraud when it comes to the blood/sugar levels. As it’s perfectly back to normal now, after a banana and mints.
Please excuse the Diabetis lesson but…
Stepping up my exercise regime (running) has done me the power of good, coming down from 3 to 2 tablets where my diabetic nurse was expecting me to be put on insulin. But with the exercise must ensure I eat regularly. Tablets taken after breakfast bring my BS levels down, but if I don’t eat (or don’t eat much which has been the case recently) BS levels come down too far. Low or high BS levels can alter mood and/or the way diabetics look at things; ie black or white but no greys. It could be what’s been happening in the last few weeks. Haven’t been testing myself, thinking my levels were under control (ie I knew they weren’t high).
Thanks to Batchelors Hall who semt me a pm, asking (possibly mischieveously) whether I am autistic – that I thought better take a blood test.If anyone realises that either they or loved ones seem to be a bit (or more than a bit) more moody/aggressive than normal – please get them checked out for diabetis; especially if drinking/peeing more than usual. Do NOT think it is an "obese" or "elderly" disease. I was diagnosed at 36, never been over 12 stone (11’10"). Thankfully I’ve never been violent even when this disease has been at its worst. But it can xxxx up moods.
Value Is EverythingI’ve taken a couple of blood/sugar level tests this morning and unusually both are low. So may be (only may be) that has affected my mood in the past few days. No excuse, should’ve tested earlier.
I have pretty much exhausted my thoughts on "horse racing", so you’ll be glad to know I’ll be giving this side of the forum a miss for a while.
Once again, Sorry.
I hope your blood sugar stabilizes and you feel tickety-boo soon Ginger
Other than that there’s really no need for you to go from one extreme to the other and stop posting all together: that would be TRF’s loss and smacks of martyrdom anyway
So in the spirit of ‘let’s make up and be friendly’ rather touchingly offered by several, even TAPK
, keep up the good work, but on a lighter duty… owd lad 
I’ve taken a couple of blood/sugar level tests this morning and unusually both are low. So may be (only may be) that has affected my mood in the past few days. No excuse, should’ve tested earlier.
I have pretty much exhausted my thoughts on "horse racing", so you’ll be glad to know I’ll be giving this side of the forum a miss for a while.
Once again, Sorry.
Above is the main issue. Even within this framed apology, one finds an excuse to discuss himself. Interesting knowledge in a non professional outlet has limited use if it is repeatedly conveyed through a self-centered and self-obsessed manner. Feels like constant validation is required.
The final sentence feels like an empty hollow present to overcompensate. I don’t believe you could ever exhaut yourself fron this topic, nor would you have suggested it without motive.
Also, not enough "lols" to describe this drama. It’s a racing forum, not Steve and Staci Wedding in Essex.
If this post could play Benny Hill music whilst you read it … Oh the joy!
You’re a decent bloke Mark. And the vast majority of your posts are interesting and informative. Hope you feel better soon.
Teeth firmly gritted!
I agree with Joni! You were beginning to sound a bit like the old TAPK Mark and it just doesn’t suit you.I look back at our little tet ar tets and they only reflect our passion about the game.You believe in a certain way and I believe in the right way! We still end up trying to achieve the same goal though.I’m going to send you a box of Mars Bars through the post so the next time you feel like you’re going to go off on one about percentages,I mean Blood sugar levels,take a bite!
Seriously though having been at the forefront of battles on here over the past 4 years and having had to get quite firm with some,you are the only person I have given a quarter too,the rest I’ve knocked out verbally even though I’d prefer violence,its still the best way to resolve a dispute,No weapons other than those we were born with.You just cant beat a good old ‘fisty’ cuff.You advocate the Pen is mightier than the Sword and at times you are a master of it.Keep up the good work and dont allow your confidence to wane…I dont!Thanks Gord, must’ve been so difficult, you writing that.
As so often the case, made me laugh out loud.
Are you coming down to Newbury?
Time we put our differences behind us.Value Is EverythingThanks Gord, must’ve been so difficult, you writing that.
As so often the case, made me laugh out loud.
Are you coming down to Newbury?
Time we put our differences behind us.Ginge you will look back in time and thank me for toughening you up! You weren’t ready to turn Pro a year or so ago but I’ve been at you and you know its built your confidence up! Respect! As for Newbury?
My problem is this,I made the effort last year andDarlan
was lucky enough to escape with his life,I pay him a visit this year and he’s not so lucky! I’ve only seen him twice in the flesh and twice he’s fell and the last thing I want to do with
My tent or Yours
is put the kiss of death on him too! this fellow will erase all the memories of me losing both my last 2 Ante-Post Champion hurdle wagers on
Spirit Son
and
Darlan
I hope! We’ll meet up again this year for sure and laugh at how we stir things up on here,Its called Mass debating and I’m the biggest Wan*er on here I know!
Sidestepping all the drama, I just wanted to put in my opinion.
Fatalities in Racing are a sickening but inevitable fact. We can try to look for reasons but I believe that on most occasions it is down to rotten luck. No Jockey is perfect but if you are to blame AP for every one of his mounts that perished, then surely the numberous lesser experienced pilots would be showing a significant and worrying higher percentage of mounts who met with fatal injury. Many horses take an absolutely shocking fall but get back on their feet OK, others have seemingly innocuous blunders which prove fatal.
Looking at Darlan’s form he had fallen before and when he was ridden by Barry Geraghty he was not fluent at the last on both occasions, despite cantering approaching those flights with the race at his mercy. Perhaps he was a horse with the odd lapse of concentration in his make up.
No disrespect to the lesser horses but it always seems to hurt more when one you have been following, and who has great prospects of going to the top (or very near it), is cruelly denied the opportunity to fulfill their potential. You simply don’t form that same bond with the lesser lights of racing, of whom there are so many.
AP will have felt this harder than most off us here and I think it is wrong to blame him for what happened. Racing, particularly over jumps is a tough game on both horse and pilot on occasion. The only time I ever blamed the jockey was back in the 90’s when Michael Hills barged through causing another horse to crash through the rails to his fatal injury. In my mind that was an avoidable fatality and was recklessness rather than an error.
To be honest, I don’t think Darlan will be remembered by many. He hadn’t reached the point where he could be considered a great and he hadn’t raced often enough to be part the public conciousness. A horse of immense promise and a sickening loss for all of racing is how I will remember him. Oh, My Darlan
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
To be honest, I don’t think Darlan will be remembered by many. He hadn’t reached the point where he could be considered a great and he hadn’t raced often enough to be part the public conciousness.
Fair comment Steve,unfortunately for those of us with the highest aspirations for the horse I somehow doubt Nicky Henderson will openly admit that
Darlan
was the best hurdler he’s had since the triple Champion
See you Then
as we’d all say….."Well why didn’t you say that before" and we all know the answer to that!
J17, I’ve not read the whole thread but you ought to cut the man some slack. Nobody is entitled to be judge, jury and executioner.
Whatever’s written here represents the heartfelt opinions of contributors, yours (obviously) included. But I hope that come your day you find someone less judgmental than yourself.
Ginger has apologised unequivocally to those he feels have been offended – 95 % of people would have continued defending their position. He’s a long-term contributor here, everything heartfelt, no matter anyone’s opinion of the content.
Go easy.
To be honest, I don’t think Darlan will be remembered by many. He hadn’t reached the point where he could be considered a great and he hadn’t raced often enough to be part the public conciousness.
Fair comment Steve,unfortunately for those of us with the highest aspirations for the horse I somehow doubt Nicky Henderson will openly admit that
Darlan
was the best hurdler he’s had since the triple Champion
See you Then
as we’d all say….."Well why didn’t you say that before" and we all know the answer to that!
Maybe he wasn’t? I would doubt they would rate Darlan above the limited Binocular, among others. Are you missing Fist so much you are trying to fill his boots?
As the starter of this thread I think I have some right to comment here. To be honest I am a bit troubled how the thread has developed. My fault really for not posting in the correct section. It is not like me to post threads like I have here, somehow you get hardened to these things, you know it’s a hard sport and I somehow think we all share a guilt as we bet on, follow and promote the sport, unfortunately what happened on Monday is an ineveitable part of it.
I have been following racing for thirty years and have seen many deaths in that time. For some reason this death affected me more than most, hence the post. I don’t know why it affected me, perhaps it was because I had been looking forward to the race so much over the weekend, perhaps it was the sheer visibility of the fall as the race was coming to a climax and knowing immediately the sad outcome, perhaps it was because of the promise that Darlan showed even though I had no particular affinity with him, whatever the reason it shook me more than most. I think the only time I had been shaken like that before was a few years ago at Stratford. I was taking photographs at the second last in a chase, when a horse, an unknown, fell and died immediately, to see something like that was a real shocker, a huge magnificent animal on the ground lifeless. The nature of the sport and how those who spend their time looking after the horses was brought home to me as the lad who looked after it was running over in tears, screaming no, no. I went home that day straight away quite shocked. One can only imagine what the poor lad was going through.
I hope we can end the arguments on this thread now, apologies have been made and no matter what disagreements we have we all clearly love the sport. Other horses died that day and more will before the season is finished. Let’s save the bickering for other threads and give a bit of respect for those horses that put themselves at risk,the jockeys that do the same and the stable staff who lovingly care for the horses.
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