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    249/1 Tullius is too big to ignore.

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    What price will you give me on 10 lengths Ginge?

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    #1122217
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    7 fish and chips to 1 Nathan

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    #1122218
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    I’d have wanted at least 8……. :yes:

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    #1122219
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    Ah top class horse, I take back everything I said about him.

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    Some horse that. Won the race through class and stamina.

    All roads open to him now, the Arc, the breeders cup, although he might well be retired at the end of the season.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    3 1/2 Lths.
    TGG looked to getting on top at one stage.
    Golden Horn wonderful although weight for age helped.

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    Looked liked he would be in a bit of trouble between 3F – 2F but then simply outstayed the second in the last 2F – Gosden just interviewed & stated that he is not entered in the Arc but made mentioned that ground would be the issue but that they have 72hr declarations so they can see how the ground is before making a decision, he also stated that the horse would tell him whether the King George would be a possibility or not.

    He has run once a month since April and for me, I would now give him a break & come back in August for Juddmonte & Irish Champion in September and then decide on the Arc or Champion Stakes at Ascot.

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    3 1/2 Lths.
    TGG looked to getting on top at one stage.
    Golden Horn wonderful although weight for age helped.

    The weight for age is always there though Nathan. It’s there to reflect the maturity of the horses and it doesn’t detract from a great performance.

    I don’t think they went fast enough to bring out Golden Horn’s superiority and off a stronger pace I believe he would have covered the over four lengths bet.

    Gosden sounds like he wants to head to the King George and 6/4 is the best price left now for that race, odds on in places. Taking 5/1 for the King George was sensible if you felt he would run there, considering his odds for today it was a better play, with his win today deemed more or less a formality in general.

    I think Golden Horn will win the King George if he turns up but 11/4 for the Arc looks dangerous to me after a busy campaign and the possibility of soft ground in October. I’d give the horse a break but I don’t own him.

    On that last note I have to thank Mick Fitzgerald for the following gem today:-

    “There is Anthony Oppenheimer, the owner of Golden Horn, he was a bit emotional afterwards and why not, because this IS his horse

    Who could have thought that a horse would belong to the owner? Cheers Mick.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Some horse Golden Horn is!

    Love to see him go for the King George then follow the route LD73 mentions above

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    Frankie is a class act, en route to the winners enclosure with the ever present C4 (mic. on a stick) shoved in his face with the crowd in raptures tells the pouting one ‘let me enjoy the moment, i’ll talk to you later’.
    Absolute class.

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    Frankie said later that Golden Horn has not been tired at the end of any of his races so far and that he must have a special constitution. Mind you, I am sure those of us who thought more than four lengths was the bet would have preferred if Frankie had got after him earlier and perhaps left the winner just a shade out of puff for once.

    During the replay Mick Fitzgerald started to suggest that Frankie barely used the whip on Golden Horn and then said “Let’s see how many times he actually uses the stick”. After a couple of smacks were noted, Mick quickly veered off tack, as he realised his first memory of the finish wasn’t quite accurate. I counted six strokes of the persuader but there is no shame in that. As we saw in The Derby and The Dante, it’s not instant acceleration that Golden Horn possesses, rather a steady gathering of momentum that has yet to fail his relentless ability to get on top in the closing stages. He’s the highlight of the season for me so far, with Gleneagles not far behind him. Probably doubtful that we will see them clash though.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Nathan Hughes wrote:</div>
    3 1/2 Lths.
    TGG looked to getting on top at one stage.
    Golden Horn wonderful although weight for age helped.

    The weight for age is always there though Nathan. It’s there to reflect the maturity of the horses and it doesn’t detract from a great performance.

    Agree Steve although in some cases you can have a fast maturing three year that is more mature than a slow maturing 4 year old. I just think the weight for age gap is a little bit too much imo although it is what it is.
    A end to end even gallop with a target to aim at and Golden Horn wins by 10.

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    Golden Horn is clearly a class act and an impressive winner today. However, I think the Racing Post’s claim that he “hammered” The Grey Gatsby is a bit insulting. “Outstayed”, certainly. “Outclassed” perhaps…

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    I’d agree withb that Tonge, Golden Horn is the best middle distance colt in Europe; but he’s not been “hammering” anyone.

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    He’s all class. Doing it the hard way from the front and stretching clear in the last furlong as though 12f is actually his optimum trip. I see he has been awarded an RPR of 132 for that so presumably they will upgrade Jack Hobbs slightly now unless they think GH improved by 5lbs. So after all the doomsayers telling us that it was a terrible year we now have this one, JH, Gleneagles, Muharrah and Time Test. Not so bad I’d say. Add to that Covert Love, Markaz, Bondi Beach and Waady also winning Group and listed all age races this week, the 3 year olds are mopping up left, right and centre against their elders.

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    I have to hold my hands up and say initially I got Golden Horn wrong. Before the Derby I was unsure about his ability to fully see out the trip over a mile and a half but his performances at Epsom and Sandown have dispelled those doubts and now I’m pretty confident he is better over twelve furlongs than he is over ten. The way Golden Horn powered through the last half furlong in the Eclipse and stormed past the post was symptomatic of a horse that is stamina laden at that trip.

    The King George is the obvious next target for the horse. I hope he runs and I expect him to run and I expect him to win easier than he did at Sandown. Everything will be perfect for the horse at Ascot. I think as long as the horse is sound and in good order, it’d be silly not to run him in the King George.

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