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I’m a Viscount Nelson fan too.
But I was impressed by Beethoven’s reappearance in the St James Palace. First time back and didn’t look fit at all, at a time when AOB’s were definitely needing it, but still finished ahead of Makfi and Steinbeck.
Definitely expect it to come on for the run. Dewhust winners tend to be 1m2f horses and Oratorio x Sadlers Wells x Irish River says the same. And that it should be progressive. Coolmore have always thought a lot of it and I just sense something a little out of the ordinary about it. Still might need one more run to put it absolutely spot would be might slight concern but I’m theorising Beethoven as top candidate for their top 1m2f 3yo by season’s end.
There is no conceivable reason for Sri Putra to have bombed by so much in the Brigadier Gerard, especially in light of his impressive Earl Of Sefton win. If his mind was on the job I’d have no doubt he would have challenged Stotsfold, Tazeez and Glass Harmonium for the placings. That would have put him in striking distance of the Prince Of Wales’ Stakes and must give him a roaring good chance here against a field with very little separating them.
40/1 is heavenly.
Sri Putra, Chabal and Viscount Nelson.
I agree with one of the above contributors.Roger Federer knows as much about tennis as AOB knows about training horses.
I’m a Viscount Nelson fan too.
But I was impressed by Beethoven’s reappearance in the St James Palace. First time back and didn’t look fit at all, at a time when AOB’s were definitely needing it, but still finished ahead of Makfi and Steinbeck.
Definitely expect it to come on for the run. Dewhust winners tend to be 1m2f horses and Oratorio x Sadlers Wells x Irish River says the same. And that it should be progressive. Coolmore have always thought a lot of it and I just sense something a little out of the ordinary about it. Still might need one more run to put it absolutely spot would be might slight concern but I’m theorising Beethoven as top candidate for their top 1m2f 3yo by season’s end.
Hi, Pedigreeman.
It’s far too early to know for certain what influence the respective sires of Steinbeck (Footstepsinthesand) and Beethoven (Oratorio) will have, but I predict that both will have a massive influence on speed.
Footstepsinthesand’s first crop included Sent From Heaven, Chachamaidee and Treadwell, whilst Oratorio has produced Big Audio and Lolly For Dolly from his debutants.
The respective dam’s of both colts are well related to milers, despite Beethoven’s being out of a Sadler’s Wells mare.
He is certainly the more interesting of the two over the trip, but I’m not convinced either will improve for it.
Saying that, who am I to argue with Aidan O’Brien.
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Dar Re Mi 4/1 looks nailed on to outbattle them all.
Nailed on? All her best form is at 12f. She’s got a chance obviously but 4/1 is no value.
better than the 5/2 you can have now
Considering the horse was being aimed at the Arc last year and the best prize money available to her was in 12f races she was in the main kept to that distance.
To assume that is her best trip is very presumptious as she has won a Group 1 over both trips….If Sariska had been A1 in the Yorkshire Oaks I doubt if she would have that Group 1 win to her name and we would be looking at ahorse who had never won a decent race over 12F.
Even if you are correct the fact she stays 12f well is a huge asset in this type of race where no horse has an apparent telling turn of foot.
I’ll be amazed if Twice Over has the bottle to outbattle her and nailed on looks a pretty good description to me.
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Dar Re Mi makes all
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Brilliant analysis
I agreeDar Re Mi makes all
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Brilliant analysis
I agreeDar re mi has as much chance of winning the Eclipse as Profound Beauty has winning the King George! No Chance!
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Dar Re Mi 4/1 looks nailed on to outbattle them all.
Nailed on? All her best form is at 12f. She’s got a chance obviously but 4/1 is no value.
better than the 5/2 you can have now
Considering the horse was being aimed at the Arc last year and the best prize money available to her was in 12f races she was in the main kept to that distance.
To assume that is her best trip is very presumptious as she has won a Group 1 over both trips….If Sariska had been A1 in the Yorkshire Oaks I doubt if she would have that Group 1 win to her name and we would be looking at ahorse who had never won a decent race over 12F.
Even if you are correct the fact she stays 12f well is a huge asset in this type of race where no horse has an apparent telling turn of foot.
I’ll be amazed if Twice Over has the bottle to outbattle her and nailed on looks a pretty good description to me.
Whatever about Twice Over, will she be able to repel the Mawatheeq challenge?
Just back the only proper Group 1 horse in there and don’t worry about the trip
Dar re mi will beat Profound Beauty over 11/2m and they could meet in the King George,unfortunately i remember Dar re mi looking very one paced in the Musidora last year and thinking she wont run over that trip again,she hasn"t since!
I cant imagine her living withViscount Nelson
myself!
I know you like him, never shown a turn of foot or anything though has he?
You are quite right Bucksy,his form would suggest he is a Group 2 horse at best,i believe this horse needs a stiff 11/4m on fast ground to show his mettle and i am convinced he can only boost his bloodline by winning this prestigious race! Aidan knows how to target a horse for a particular race and i firmly believe he has done just that with
Viscount Nelson
,do it for Horatio!
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Just 6 left in, and Dar Re Mi is head and shoulders above the rest, so it’s simply a question of the distance,imo.
With Viscount Nelson and Mawatheeq also needing further to be seen at their best, it looks bound to be a strong pace, and DRM needs to prove she can perform at this trip to have any real chance in her major objective, the 10f Fillies And Mares Turf.
She should be too good for this bunch, anyway.Dar re mi has as much chance of winning the Eclipse as Profound Beauty has winning the King George! No Chance!
Well done TAPK you’ve (ironically) pinpointed the winners of both races! I’d advise you to print out this post on rice paper, it’ll make eating you words more palatable
Dar re mi has as much chance of winning the Eclipse as Profound Beauty has winning the King George! No Chance!
Well done TAPK you’ve (ironically) pinpointed the winners of both races! I’d advise you to print out this post on rice paper, it’ll make eating you words more palatable
Cheltenham, Dar re mi wants 12f and Profound Beauty has Irish Leger on softer ground written all over her,so no need for the rice paper when its written in stone!
Showed a distinct turn of foot when touched off in her 10f G3 run, and a distinct touch of class when winning and battling for her G1 10f win. Since when she’s improved still further..not sure why she’s an out and out 12f horse, will she suddenly stop running, lose all her class and finish out the back after 9f or something?
I agree
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