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    yeats
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    He’s not going to win or place in the Commonwealth Cup though, is he Yeats? I am a huge fan of Gifted Master (had him in my 4PP team yesterday!) but that C&D form is working out terribly. He’d be run off his feet in the CC.

    Winning the Jersey isn’t worth much financially, but the prestige of a Royal Ascot win has its own value. As you say, he is a gelding with a brilliant constitution, so there should be many more chances to go for the mega bucks.

    Jersey all the way IMO.

    Sadly, unlike you and a few others I don’t know the results and what’s going to happen prior to the races. What percentage of races work out as you expect? As there would be no guarantees even in The Jersey I would be quite be prepared to take a chance in the big one, if he finishes down the field so be it.

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    Haha come on Yeats, there’s no need for that. If I knew the results I wouldn’t have put him in my 4PP squad yesterday.

    I just think it’s best to put the horse in the race he has the most chance of winning. Hugo Palmer already seems to have practically ruled out the Commonwealth Cup in any case.

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    Acapulco is not running in this but will go in the 5F Kings Stand.

    I doubt she would last the 6F based on the way she got reeled in in the Nunthorpe last year.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Acapulco is still in the betting for this race, despite being said to have just the one target this week.

    I was looking for some value and feel I may have found one.

    With the ground likely to be soft by the look of the forecast, that will play against some of the contenders.

    Quiet Reflection put in a strong show last time and is a worthy favourite but the odds more than reflect her chance now.

    Log Out Island blazed away from the front last time but can he repeat that, particularly in soft ground? Richard Hannon says he is a horse who has always worked well but does not often reproduce it on the race track.

    Air Force Blue looks a bust to me and will he handle soft ground anyway. This smacks of last chance saloon for him before the Ballydoyle team admit he just hasn’t brought his A-game from last season into his 3yo career. He’s not one for me.

    Washington DC seems in and out and perhaps on soft ground he’ll be like the Dragon’s Den investor who declares “For that reason, I’m out”

    La Rioja was disappointing, even allowing for being on seasonal debut last time. Henry Candy is 1/28 the past fortnight and, just like Little Britain, computer says NO.

    For me, the value lies with Prix Djebel winner Cheikeljack.

    This son of Myboycharlie has won 3 of his 5 starts and he landed the 7F French trial at Maisons-Laffitte from Attendu and Ribchester.

    Cheikeljack has not been out since but Ribchester was 3rd in the 2000 Guineas and Attendu ran in the French Guineas, which has been working out really well, before landing a group 3 from Esoterique, albeit getting weight from the older mare.

    Cheikeljack has won on heavy and the more rain the better for his stamina to be more of an influence. He has a Racing Post rating of 113, so he is no duck egg.

    His chance is far from obvious but his form has been franked in places and looks a good standard. With plenty of question marks about others, he looks worth a few quid at 20/1 in a race where ones at shorter odds make little appeal.

    Cheikeljack 20/1 looks like it might be a fair bit better than SP come the day and the right going.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    La Rioja had a nice prep in the Sandy Lane.Hoping Mr.Candy can hit form with this one this week

    Took the 16-1 E/W NRNB with PP

    #1251601
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    He’s not going to win or place in the Commonwealth Cup though, is he Yeats? I am a huge fan of Gifted Master (had him in my 4PP team yesterday!) but that C&D form is working out terribly. He’d be run off his feet in the CC.

    Winning the Jersey isn’t worth much financially, but the prestige of a Royal Ascot win has its own value. As you say, he is a gelding with a brilliant constitution, so there should be many more chances to go for the mega bucks.

    Jersey all the way IMO.

    Told you young fella, ran it in the wrong race :yes:

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    Haha – I think today’s Gifted Master would have struggled to keep up with Her Majesty’s shire horses! Very poor.

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    Though got WASHINGTON DC 16/1 Ground may gone for him so agree with Steve on french horse form got another boost today with Ribchester winning now 14/1

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    The Commonwealth Cup i have managed to get some luck and bag the 11/4 on Quiet Reflection now in as short as 2/1. She is my third only bet of the week and hoping she bags this for trainer Karl Burke and pay for my holiday next month. She has impressed me ever since beating Jimmy Two Times who recently franked that form by winning the Listed Prix Marchand D’Or at Deauville. Her Sandy Lane Stakes win was more impressive and really made me stand up that day in ore of her ability beating last years Coventry Stakes winner Buratino and Pavilion Stakes winner Gifted Master. La Rioja as Steve mentioned was back in fifth that day, but she never got her ground that day and has to be feared if running up to her Dick Poole win at Salisbury last September

    French raider Cheikeljack has to be feared to all and looks a solid each way chance. She beat the Jersey Stakes winner Ribchester comfortably in the Prix Djebel at Maison’s last month on heavy ground, she is value around 12/1. But I am with Burke’s runner all the way here, i think she is the real deal.

    QUIET REFLECTION

    Good Luck

    Darren P Goodbody

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    Quiet Reflection bridle :good:

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    Gone in again on La Rioja @ 12-1

    My horse to follow from last year

    #1251865
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    Am going for Washington Dc purely based on course form :wacko:

    #1251953
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    La Rioja may well come on for her first start but Henry Candy is 1/20 since 30th May a 5% strike rate and I don’t hold out much hope for her today.

    The favourite has a clear chance but 2/1 is a bit skinny.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1251954
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    Can’t really see past Quiet Reflection. Expect her to assert herself as the female Muhaarar today. Cheikeljack looks a nice e/w prospect though. Won the Djebel beating Ribchester and Attendu who haven’t exactly done badly since.

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    BIG DOUG! :good:

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