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Chester 3:15 – luck of the draw?

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    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    From a punters point of view, Chester has everything.

    Strong trends, workable and predictable biases, a core of trainers who target the course; proper trainers. A strong market, decent prize money leading to tryers and the possibility of a good priced winner in each race. Even a selling plate there is exciting to watch too.

    I’d recommend Chester to anyone, particularly the May meeting.

    Absolutely spot on. What a bunch of miserable gits you must be to slate such a unique and competitive meeting. Not as if every winner is in stall 1 and sent off 6/4 is it. I think it’s excellent, had a fantastic time at last year’s meeting. Recommend it also, just get yer head in the formbook as usual and let the track help you out.

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    davidbrady
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    Maybe the BHA should make "crap draw" a legimate excuse for a non-runner!

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    Maybe the BHA should make "crap draw" a legimate excuse for a non-runner!

    If I was in charge – I’d do just that. The BHA have no balls or determination to change racing for the better – they just want a quiet life whilst creaming the personal rewards. Decisions by committee and compromise. Who is going to move and shake this industry?

    Backing two runners is the relentless pursuit of value. Backing each way is a shortcut to the poor house. Only 7% make a long term profit.

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    You have a point DJ but if I were an owner and I had a gamble at the draw and lost I’d be tempted to cut my losses at that point and not run my horse (with attendant injury risks, additional costs, etc).

    From a BHA perspective, mass withdrawals is clearly bad news and quite what they do about it I’m not sure. Perhaps random ‘independent’ vet checks on horses who have been self-certed. Or perhaps extend the 6 day rule to 2 weeks. However, the former could become a matter of interpretation while the latter is potentially unfair on genuine cases for withdrawal.

    The stats do suggest that you are more or less wasting your time running your horse from a high draw over sprint distances in larger fields (>10 runners).

    That said I love Chester from a spectating viewpoint and Max is right, the unique nature of the course actually makes it a more attractive punting medium.

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    From a punters point of view, Chester has everything.

    Strong trends, workable and predictable biases, a core of trainers who target the course; proper trainers. A strong market, decent prize money leading to tryers and the possibility of a good priced winner in each race. Even a selling plate there is exciting to watch too.

    I’d recommend Chester to anyone, particularly the May meeting.

    Absolutely spot on there, Max. The course may be an oddity when it comes to formbook purity but for punting bias it presents a myriad of opportunities.

    Chink of Light a perfect example in the Vase yesterday. Sent off at a BFSP of 25.59, it could be laid in running at 8.5 before the end of the first furlong having been sent straight to the head of the field. Given its non staying pedigree, that represented

    massive

    value.

    Needless to say I wasn’t involved but that’s just one example. Very little to complain about at Chester imo.

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    eddie case
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    Eddie,

    A horse withdrawn on a self certificate cannot run anywhere for the following six days.

    AP

    I know that AP, I don’t believe a self cert is always used though if you’d like to run in another race in the next few days. I’d like that 6 day ban extended for all horses that are late withdrawals for whatever reason.
    There’s too many horses missing races with a "vets" then running the next day or two.

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    Agree with those who regard Chester as both a grand spectacle and provider of good betting opportunities

    Haven’t had a bet there for some years now so don’t know if the market today factors in the draw more than it used to, but last century races over 5 and 6 furlongs provided some stonking bets; infact these were more or less the courses that kept my Flathead just above water

    Anyone remember a horse called Nifty Norman?

    A front running burn-merchant drawn 1 over 5f top rated all round be that time, form, mark, mine who made all to win at a huge 3/1 from a still-generous 2/1 opening

    It all looked so obvious and simple the betting-booted feet nearly got cold

    Aside from Beverley 5f, the Chester sprint courses were the only tracks IMO where you could guarantee a straightforward draw bias (given the necessary race shape) that was rarely cocked-up, influenced or ameliorated by the jockeys

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    Its still a dog track though !!!
    :mrgreen:

    Ricky

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