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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Entries……

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2022-10-15/816973

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/british-champions-long-distance-cup/winner

    Not a race that I’ve had much joy in over the years, perhaps down to the fact that I tend to go with a louder one. With that in mind, I really should concentrate at the head of the market, but I’m sticking with Stratum. Had some decent results from him, and a few flops as well (poor last time).

    I’m holding out hope that a return here, where he has a great record, will see him in his best light, but obviously a big ask too.

    Princess Zoe also fairly interesting, for all I get it that one of the market principals will no doubt prevail

    Stratum 50’s EW

    #1617997
    Mike007
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    Trueshan 7-4

    #1618006
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    Trueshan walks this at his best but was a long way below that last time. I wouldn’t be getting involved at short prices.

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    I’m surprised Trueshan is even declared – after Doncaster he sounded like he was putting him away for the year.

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    Eldar Eldarov not a certain runner – he’s currently taking at least a 20% chunk out of the collective 130% ante-post book.

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    Raise You 33’s
    Was 5’s in the Irish St Leger against Kyprios and Hamish, well beaten in 5th but last off the bridle. Has improved with age and a fast pace here could see involved

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    Fascinating selection from Nathan.

    Eldar Eldarov isn’t certain to run and I’ve got my doubts about Trueshan.

    Alan King isn’t a bad trainer, but he isn’t Aidan O’Brien and opportunities to win big races are few and far between for him.

    I’m certain this influences such trainers – you can’t get a prize-money percentage by having your horse stood in its box and every runner you have is a free bet (you’re not paying the entry fees and travel costs etc).

    King sounded like Trueshan was done for the season after Doncaster yet here he is entered up again.

    Hmmm.

    And talented though Waterville is, winning an Irish Cesarewitch off 99 isn’t exactly as difficult as taking on stayers rated 115+.

    He’s a very short price on what he’s actually achieved.

    With doubts about the front three in the betting I can see why Nathan likes his 33/1 sort out.

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    Trueshan’s record in October since his debut is 11111. Not bad ;o)

    Hope the rain comes.

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    5mm rain last 24 hours.

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    If eldar eldarov hits 3/1 il have a bet

    Trueshan ran so poorly last time, he didn’t look happy at all, quite likely goodwood has effected him

    Certainly happy to take him on

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    Seems ripe for an upset here. Stratum seems a decent bet.

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    Why is waterville 7/2?

    He should be 16/1+ surely?

    Has 16lb to find with trueshan
    11lb to find with quickthorn
    10lb to find with eldar eldarov
    6lb to find with coltrane

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    Theory on quickthorns run in the cadran

    He sulked when not allowed to front run and bowl along

    I’m assuming they changed tactics because they didn’t think he’d get home with the usual aggressive tactics over 2m4f on that ground

    They will surely go back to his usual tactics tomorrow

    Coltrane and quickthorn are the value

    I will likely back both tomorrow

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    The Waterville thing makes me laugh a little bit. Read the RP spotlight comment for Waterville versus the comment for Trawlerman. Waterville having had 6 starts and won a valuable handicap last time is an ‘exciting prospect’ and yet Trawlerman having only had 9 starts himself and also won a valuable handicap last time ‘needs a fair bit more’. Trawlerman officially is rated 1lb lower than Waterville :wacko: .

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    Age of winners since it became group race status and run at Ascot in 2011 has been 4-8.

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    Trueshan, Quickthorn, Coltrane
    Combination forecast
    As you say the youngsters get the weight but struggle against the older horses.
    It would be a cracker if Coltrane ran well.

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    It’s two selections for me in Quickthorn at 12-1, and Coltrane at 9-1. I thought that both of them were fair prices, and I just couldn’t split them

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