Champions and Cheats

[cormack15]

There will be loads of both over the next few weeks.

Trouble is that the former will be indistinguishable from the latter.

[insomniac]

Are Celtic worth laying at 1.79? Just scraped the title by skin of their teeth last season. May get bogged down with Champions League – which Rangers don’t have to worry about now. Is Strachan a talented manager or just jammy?
May be worth laying and buying back should they slip-up a bit early doors if they drift to evens. What do the tartan clan on the forum think?

[GeorgeJ]

Judging by the two matches with K, Rangers haven’t a prayer of winning the SPL, and with reduced income prospects they won’t be able to strengthen their team.

[Himself]

Lay the mighty Celtic at your peril.

Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

[cormack15]

Er, I meant the Olympics!

[insomniac]

You mean not everyone is obsessed with footy?

[cormack15]

Woman’s heptathlon-

Cheat back from serving ban finishes in Silver.
Fellow countrywoman whose PB was set back in 2004 miraculously recovers form to win Gold.

[davidbrady]

What do you reckon on Usain Bolt – clean or not?

My borther follows athletics fairly closly and he reckons he’s just unbelievably talented – def not on drugs.

[Friggo]

Bolt hasn’t got the muscle mass of some of the other sprinters, nor has his form come completely out of the blue (precocious junior who spent too much time in the 200m clearly), so the notion that he’s clean on that basis is plausible. However if you consider Tim Montgomery could only manage 9.77 whilst cheating, it would be surprising if a man could come along within five years who could beat him by 0.08 in a hack canter and still be clean.

[Drone]

Isn’t it possible that with Bolt being such an unusual build for a sprinter (very tall and lean) he may be a ‘freak’, for want of a better word: an exceptional and unusually gifted meso-ectomorphic athlete who can overcome the inherent mechanical disadvantage and cycle those long legs as fast as the shorter legs of the more typical stocky meso-endomorphic sprinter; hence his natural longer stride places him at a considerable advantage.

[cormack15]

I’d vote ‘clean’ on Bolt but wouldn’t be betting my mortgage on it or owt like that.

And once I find out what ‘meso-endomorphic’ means I’ll know if I agree with Drone or not!

[Grasshopper]

…..an exceptional and unusually gifted meso-ectomorphic athlete who can overcome the inherent mechanical disadvantage and cycle those long legs as fast as the shorter legs of the more typical stocky meso-endomorphic sprinter…………..

That’s exactly what I was thinking, Drone. Good man.

[Drone]

And once I find out what ‘meso-endomorphic’ means I’ll know if I agree with Drone or not!

See:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articl … morph.html

I got it wrong anyway Bolt is probably better described as an ecto-mesomorph and yer ‘typical’ sprinter as a straightforward mesomorph

BTW I share your cynicism regarding the drug-soaking of ‘professional’ athletes, just attempting a ‘lateral’ alternative to explain away an exceptional run.

And are you/I/us in danger of being carried away by the terrific performances of the Home athletes by assuming it’s only dirty Johnny Foreigner who succumbs to temptation and all in the British camp is tickety-boo?

[MikkyMo73]

Nah, Usain isn’t a cheat – with his golden spikes he is clearly a Bolt from the shoe

Mike

[graysonscolumn]

And are you/I/us in danger of being carried away by the terrific performances of the Home athletes by assuming it’s only dirty Johnny Foreigner who succumbs to temptation and all in the British camp is tickety-boo?

Quite. Had Dwayne Chambers’ previous indiscretions gone completely untraced to the present day, and he was therefore able to compete at Beijing on the assumption of being as clean as the next athlete, what’s to say he actually might – only might – well have performed there under the influence of something illegal (be that under the immediate influence or else the legacy of many training sessions / trials under the influence)?

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[cormack15]

And we do have that 400 metre runner who unfortunately missed all those dates with the urine sample bottle and still managed to make it to the Olympics.

[Pompete]

What about the Scottish cyclists?

It’s easy to throw mud!

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