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    Avatar photoAndyRAC
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    Well done to the winners; if you’re not in it, you can’t win. Never be afraid of one horse, especially over jumps. It’s a technical sport, not Flat racing….the obstacles have to be overcome.

    And there’s no reason why CH & SM can’t come back and make a race of it next year; sadly, there’s nothing in the novice department that looks likely to trouble the current lot.

    As for the winner, she’s now won twice at the Festival, and also won a recognised trial, the Kingwell; something Alderbrook & Kribensis did years ago.

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    LD73
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    Would have thought Lossiemouth would be the best candidate for the Aintree Hurdle (seeing as she didn’t have much of a race today) and State Man after falling will probably be left until Punchestown – seriously doubt whether we will see CH again until the Fighting Fifth.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    “He might be Hughsie but he,s looking a bit daft just now”

    I don’t think he’s looking daft. State Man looked to be back to his best, certainly in comparison to getting battered by Brighterdaysahead the last couple of times they met. He couldn’t have forseen both Constitution Hill and State Man both hitter the deck. You can’t place horses in races thinking everyone else is going to fall
    Besides that you had a lot of people against Lossiemouth even winning the Mares this morning because she fell last time and wasn’t apparently working well yet now she should have run in the Champion.

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    He’s daft Hughsie as if she had ran in the race she would have very likely won … He s the best trainer around but he made a mistake today

    #1722789
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    “As for the winner, she’s now won twice at the Festival, and also won a recognised trial, the Kingwell; something Alderbrook & Kribensis did years ago.”
    That was true until the mid 90s. Now, 30 years later, the Kingwell is just another conditions race, maybe a bit weaker than the Agfa used to be.

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    We can’t say for sure Lossie wouldn’t have ended up on her arse too in fairness if she’d gone in the Champion. Different race, different pace etc Its all hindsight. Doesn’t matter now anyway if my aunt had balls and all that.

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    ” We can’t say for sure Lossie wouldn’t have ended up on her arse too in fairness if she’d gone in the Champion. Different race, different pace etc Its all hindsight. Doesn’t matter now anyway if my aunt had balls and all that ”

    Wordsworth couldn’t have said it better

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    “if my aunt had balls and all that ”

    It is a thing to be fair… :rose:

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

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    Interestingly Kribensis only ran in the 1990 Kingwell Hurdle (en-route to winning the 1990 Champion Hurdle) due to the fact that connections felt that the thing that beat him in the 1989 Champion Hurdle was the fact that they opted not to run him between the Christmas Hurdle and Cheltenham (where he faded badly after leading going to the last).

    I think for trainers now its closeness to the Champion Hurdle puts more off of running Champion Hurdle contenders but look through its history and the first 6 runnings were won by Champion Hudle winners in Bula (who did the double back to back in 1971-72) and Lanzarote (both won it 3 times) and after Kribensis and Alderbrook you also had Hors La Lois III (2002) and Katchit (2008) do the double.

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    Well you couldn’t of predicted that Constitution Hill does a Buveur D’Air, then just as you think State Man is about to be a dual champion hurdle winner does an Annie Power :wacko:

    VF x

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    Graciousness in defeat (triumph and disaster etc) from Mullins and Henderson but not particularly from Mr Buckley who comes across as a rather entitled and somewhat arrogant individual. A remarkable result but a great one for the sport in many ways (we can say that thankfully because two champion hurdlers and their riders got up unscathed from two nasty looking falls). Never mind about Lossiemouth-she didn’t run- but the owners of ‘The Ace’ and Burdett Road did and they ended up finishing first and second – despite both trainers suggesting they would run elsewhere. Shows what can happen if you take a risk . BDA faded rather like Apples Jade did , but she’ll probably win the Mares next year eh.

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    I wouldn’t touch her with a bargepole , she doesn’t like the place in my eyes , that’s 2 years in a row where she’s ran like a drain here

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    An absolute anti-climax.

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    Could look at it one of a few ways with BDA – one the effort that it took to produce that performance at Leopardstown has left a much more lasting mark on her, two it was just an anomaly of a race (as State Man clearly never showed up) and the others runners were clearly ridden simply to get placed (it was suspect form that you couldn’t put trust at face value in) or she has just had an off day.

    Not sure I can have that last one as she had the run of the race and it is not like they went the some crazy fast fractions today (at one point starting down the back I didn’t think they were going quick enough) but she was still travelling well until State Man loomed upside her just before turning for home but when asked there was not much of a response.

    The overall form clearly won’t hold up as this was simply a case of the three outsiders taking full advantage of an unexpectedly rare set of circumstances to befall the three principles….nothing more nothing less.

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    Golden Ace has been awarded an RPR of just 154 for her success on Tuesday. That is, by some way, the lowest I can recall for a Champion Hurdle winner.

    It’ll be interesting to see what Timeform do with her rating next week.

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    …. Prob a squiggle lol

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    She was 4 seconds slower than Kopek earlier who jumped like a mule so the rating is probably fair.

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