October 28, 2020 at 16:08 #1507568YogiParticipant
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SAINT ROI is my dark horse this year, loved the way he won the handicap this year and was clearly very well in and as we all know JP loves the Champion Hurdle.
I’m thinking a lot of the main contenders will either go novice chasing or step up in trip over hurdles. Others are clearly not good enough for me and had their day.
I love placing a few ante-posts straight after the festival for the following year, On at 20/1 ew plus 14/1 ew to win any race
Very exciting prospectOctober 28, 2020 at 17:26 #1507578FinalFurlong91Participant
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an interesting hint to how epatante and abracadabras stack up
Geraghty was on the at the races jumps preview
Said he has ridden abracadabras in some work at elliots yard so has a very good idea how they compare
And he sounded confident when he put up epatante as his hurdler to followOctober 28, 2020 at 18:32 #1507590
Saldier @ 20/1 the clear and obvious value at this stage for me. Missing festivals never ideal but his limited form looks very good and initial reports are good too. He was what, 7/2 last season before being declared out?
The price about Abacadabras is absolutely atrocious. To quote Mark ‘the couch’ Winstlanly ‘if I had a choice of backing Abacadabras @ 11/2 for the Champion Hurdle, or a flu jab from Harold Shipman, I’d say “be careful with the needle doctor”October 29, 2020 at 12:32 #1507651
Why do you think Abacadabras wont be Ireland’s best this season Charlie? Others have been around a year or two and not managed to win the Champion Hurdle for one reason or another.October 29, 2020 at 13:02 #1507658FinalFurlong91Participant
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Its definitely a bad price atm
Hes priced up as though he’s won the morgiana or Irish champion hurdle already
Though tbf when you look at the list of contenders there is very little depth to the race
If say saint roi and abacadabras dont live up to the hype epatante could go off very shortOctober 29, 2020 at 13:23 #1507662
Mike007 – Abacadabras could well be Irelands best this season, my point was that he’s priced up as if he already is, and we haven’t even seen him yet. I’d be confident Saldier would beat Abacadabras if both went Morgiana.October 29, 2020 at 17:34 #1507699
Confident? Lol. Think you may have gone starry eyed a bit after getting a good price, as you have nothing yet to base that on.October 29, 2020 at 18:28 #1507702
Nothing to base that on? Abacadabras (unless I’ve missed it) hasn’t stepped out of novice company yet – its for him to prove he is capable at the top level. He may well do so, but so many don’t, and we are talking about ante post bets at ante post prices in October, so when comparing him to a horse like Saldier who is 20/1 vs 11/2, or 5/1 respectively for the Morgiana, I know where my money’s going because we don’t know what Abacadabras is capable of, yet.
I miss the FJFOctober 29, 2020 at 19:18 #1507705
Nothing to base it on means we don’t know yet.
Whats FJF? I’m not familiar with that term.October 29, 2020 at 20:50 #1507714
I know as a Saldier backer what he’s capable of – hence why I can be confident. Let’s not go round in circles, I get your point, Abacadabras could be anything so of course I can’t state anything definitively, it just comes down to price and the information we have now.
Fat Jockey Forum – you should check it out, great community and much much more active than on here.October 29, 2020 at 21:21 #1507721greenasgrassParticipant
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Does anyone know why Saldier missed 2020 festival? I understand the injury before that was smashing his nose in which doesn’t bother me overly going forwards- he has proved since that he can breathe more than adequately through it since it mended! – but would worry more about tendons etc. You are right he is a class act but possibly in danger of being Douvanesque if anything else goes wrong…ie backing him to turn up having been able to be trained hard enough to be fit. Price at moment pretty decent and better price than most above him, and will get slashed and burned if he wins the Morgiana.
Fat Jockey Forum – you should check it out, great community and much much more active than on here.
Good job it’s back up and running so you don’t have to slum it in this little backwater then. FJF is good, lots of knowledgeable people on there and very well supported; so much so that by March there will be about 400 pages per furlong per festival race. Although nothing about the Charlie Hall, b365 hurdle or Sodexo Gold Cup on there yet, oddly.October 29, 2020 at 21:51 #1507724
Ah Fat Jockey forum. Came across that site couple of weeks back.October 30, 2020 at 08:44 #1507740
I don’t think it was too serious grass. Willie sounded like Saldier would miss Cheltenham but hoped he’d be back for Punchestown, which obviously fell victim to ******* covid, so I don’t think it was too serious.
‘Slum it in this little backwater’ hahaha. I’d say this place is currently ahead on big race discussion which I really like, but when it comes to discussing Cheltenham its like comparing Real Madrid with Yeovil Town.October 30, 2020 at 14:09 #1507781
Not exactly bubble burst for Abacadabras but those on at 11/2 for this must be very disappointed in that today. Jumping was OK, looked all over the winner as he has done before, then ends up 3rd. Will no doubt come on for the run, but then the same could be said for Aspire Tower. If he goes Morgiana I ain’t worried being in Saldier’s camp.October 30, 2020 at 14:12 #1507784
As i am already on Epatante at 5s i hope the Irish horses beat each other.
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