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Its definitely a bad price atm
Hes priced up as though he’s won the morgiana or Irish champion hurdle already
Though tbf when you look at the list of contenders there is very little depth to the race
If say saint roi and abacadabras dont live up to the hype epatante could go off very short
Mike007 – Abacadabras could well be Irelands best this season, my point was that he’s priced up as if he already is, and we haven’t even seen him yet. I’d be confident Saldier would beat Abacadabras if both went Morgiana.
Confident? Lol. Think you may have gone starry eyed a bit after getting a good price, as you have nothing yet to base that on.
Nothing to base that on? Abacadabras (unless I’ve missed it) hasn’t stepped out of novice company yet – its for him to prove he is capable at the top level. He may well do so, but so many don’t, and we are talking about ante post bets at ante post prices in October, so when comparing him to a horse like Saldier who is 20/1 vs 11/2, or 5/1 respectively for the Morgiana, I know where my money’s going because we don’t know what Abacadabras is capable of, yet.
I miss the FJF
Nothing to base it on means we don’t know yet.
Whats FJF? I’m not familiar with that term.
I know as a Saldier backer what he’s capable of – hence why I can be confident. Let’s not go round in circles, I get your point, Abacadabras could be anything so of course I can’t state anything definitively, it just comes down to price and the information we have now.
Fat Jockey Forum – you should check it out, great community and much much more active than on here.
Does anyone know why Saldier missed 2020 festival? I understand the injury before that was smashing his nose in which doesn’t bother me overly going forwards- he has proved since that he can breathe more than adequately through it since it mended! – but would worry more about tendons etc. You are right he is a class act but possibly in danger of being Douvanesque if anything else goes wrong…ie backing him to turn up having been able to be trained hard enough to be fit. Price at moment pretty decent and better price than most above him, and will get slashed and burned if he wins the Morgiana.
Fat Jockey Forum – you should check it out, great community and much much more active than on here.
Good job it’s back up and running so you don’t have to slum it in this little backwater then. FJF is good, lots of knowledgeable people on there and very well supported; so much so that by March there will be about 400 pages per furlong per festival race. Although nothing about the Charlie Hall, b365 hurdle or Sodexo Gold Cup on there yet, oddly.I don’t think it was too serious grass. Willie sounded like Saldier would miss Cheltenham but hoped he’d be back for Punchestown, which obviously fell victim to ******* covid, so I don’t think it was too serious.
‘Slum it in this little backwater’ hahaha. I’d say this place is currently ahead on big race discussion which I really like, but when it comes to discussing Cheltenham its like comparing Real Madrid with Yeovil Town.
Not exactly bubble burst for Abacadabras but those on at 11/2 for this must be very disappointed in that today. Jumping was OK, looked all over the winner as he has done before, then ends up 3rd. Will no doubt come on for the run, but then the same could be said for Aspire Tower. If he goes Morgiana I ain’t worried being in Saldier’s camp.
Hes never been one to find much off the bridle but that wouldve dissapointed elliot surely
He normally gets his horses spot on for this meeting
Given how goshen was going to beat aspire tower that adds some depth to his form
I’m not too worried. I’d rather Abacadabras peaked in mid March than late October. Travelled well but tired late on.
Have to admit i was surprised Aspire Tower was the one to beat him but i’m not taking the form literally i.e. Goshen isn’t a certainty all of a sudden.
I’d be surprised if abracadbras was even 70% fit , lol let’s put it this way I’m not ripping up my shiskin Arkle bet just because he only beat Abra by half a length
The race was 14 seconds slower than standard
Supreme was some 17 seconds slower than standard
Although he has ran on the same going many times Abracadbras strikes me as one who will do better on better going
Certainly wouldn’t rule him out off the back of today but yes was disappointingBlackbeard to conquer the World
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