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  • #7578
    LetsGetRacing
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    Despite the slightly dubious race analysis from the ‘experts’ in the Coral studio, Carrybrough really did look the real deal when winning at Sandown this afternoon.

    He’s a lovely looking horse and had shown fair form in winning a Windsor maiden with considerable ease at the end of last season. Despite it being his reappearance, despite the trip arguably being on the short side, despite the race looking competitive and despite being trapped amongst horses for 80% of the race, he showed an impressive turn of foot to win extremely comfortably.

    Following that pipe-opener, and upped to six furlongs, surely he’s going to rank among the best sprinters this season? Henry Candy has apparently said that they ‘don’t want to aim too high, too soon’ but with the potential improvement from this horse you’ve got to be a little bit excited…

    #159914
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    Having backed him when he won his maiden last year I had £30 squids on today at 5-4 – bit of a crap price though.

    He is obviously useful and I feel 5f is fine for now with the option of 6f.

    Hopefully he’ll be better odds in a harder race, but you know what the bookies are like :(

    Should at least be Group 3 material.

    Zip

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    What did the experts say about it?

    #159927
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    Was trying to post a reply about corrybrough but kept getting a message coming up there for an hour or more saying "You cannot make another post so soon after your last; please try again in a short while", has anyone else had this?

    #159950
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    Candy gave an amusing interview on RUK post race – he has a delighful dry sense of humour.

    He told us that the jockey had recommended a step up to 6F, but he was favouring a return to Sandown for a 5F Listed race. More significantly, he made it clear that he rates this horse pretty much the equal of his sire Kyllachy, that he expects a lot more from him in the second half of this year and to be running in top class sprints next year (if the trainer doesn’t make too many mistakes, he said).

    AP

    #159957
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    Apparenty he is missing R/Ascot, aiming for the end of season challenges and Longchamp.

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    Looked a bit of a lazy bugger didn’t he, at one stage I didn’t think he was going to get into top gear, but he was impressive once Ryan Moore ‘created’ the gap.

    Colin

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    I know the season is young but that was the best sprint performance I have seen so far this season.

    My immediate post race note was "won with ease will progress, even over six"

    Having seen a couple of re-runs since I have not changed my mind and I can see him taking a big prize somewhere this season.

    The third, Rash Judgement, was well backed and is another who will be winning soon.

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    Being by Kyllachy I would expect that he will be wanting some cut to be at his best, and with the fact that he gets 5f and may get 6f, he may be one to get on as soon as the market opens for the Nunthorpe and the Sprint Cup.

    If henry candy has said that he may be a horse for the second half of the season then there is a good chance that we wont see him much over the summer and his price for the bigger sprints may be decent, should he be overlooked through other performances in the meantime.

    Amadeus Wolf two seasons ago was one who I was waiting for for a softer ground 6f sprint, and managed to get 33-1 on him when the market opened round about the end of july for that race (he started at 3-1 or so, finished third and I hadnt e/wd him, d’oh…but it does go to show the prices these overlooked ones can be), the nunthorpe market opens well before that. Lets hope he doesnt get a monster rating in the meantime, as happened with dandy man two years ago, he opened at about 5-1 for the nunthorpe, and almost instantly went 3-1.

    One to make a note of, Corrybrough.

    #160011
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    It’s not a case of him possibly getting six furlongs, Bulwark, he already does, and on yesterday’s performance he’ll be all the better for being returned to it.

    I don’t see the justification for avoiding the best sprint races in this country given how heavily Candy campaigned Airwave not too many years ago. I’d suggest Corrybrough (I’ll get the spelling right this time) is better than she was, and she was running the likes of Choisir, Oasis Dream, Somnus and Acclamation to 2l or less as a three-year-old.

    You’ve got the tools, Henry, use them.

    #160023
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    I have been following Kyllachys for the past few years and they seem to be at their best on cut, however Tariq did beat US Ranger in the Jersey last year on Gd-Fm so who knows, I’d want some cut for him, and you dont usually get that at ascot or in the july stakes. And the Kings Stand and Golden Jubilee against the aussies and Sakhees Secret may come round a bit soon for him. I think Candy will know how to campaign him and although so far he’s kept him on cut, that may just be through him coming to hand late at two, and he may choose to go for the faster surfaced races.

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    I don’t see the justification for avoiding the best sprint races in this country given how heavily Candy campaigned Airwave not too many years ago. I’d suggest Corrybrough (I’ll get the spelling right this time) is better than she was, and she was running the likes of Choisir, Oasis Dream, Somnus and Acclamation to 2l or less as a three-year-old.

    You’ve got the tools, Henry, use them.

    He has to improve a bit more before he can be compared to these horses. Anyway – candy’s campaigning of Airwave was pretty disastrous imo so let’s hope he doesn’t use that as any kind of template for this horse.

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    It’s not a case of him possibly getting six furlongs, Bulwark, he already does, and on yesterday’s performance he’ll be all the better for being returned to it.

    I don’t see the justification for avoiding the best sprint races in this country given how heavily Candy campaigned Airwave not too many years ago. I’d suggest Corrybrough (I’ll get the spelling right this time) is better than she was, and she was running the likes of Choisir, Oasis Dream, Somnus and Acclamation to 2l or less as a three-year-old.

    You’ve got the tools, Henry, use them.

    From what Henry Candy said, and what we saw, Corrybrough is probably bound for Group success. But it is as well to keep things in perspective. So far the bare form is not within 20 lbs of what Airwave achieved, or Kingsgate Native for that matter. A good way to mess up a 6f sprinter that needs easy ground would be to run it on fast ground in the Nunthorpe Stakes. Hopefully we will be seeing Corrybrough for two or three years at least and Henry will take his time.

    #160169
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    He might prove best at 5f – if he needs give in the ground I don’t see him getting 6f against decent opposition.

    #160185
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    Is that conclusion purely on breeding, Ven.?

    Looking at the race it looked as if 5f. would be a minimum.

    Colin

    #160186
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    Good points, all.

    Be intesresting to see where he turns up next.

    I think Henry Candy may take it more easily this year with him, but he does seem keen on the Prix de l’ Abbaye.

    Will he get 6 furlongs in a top class race? – not sure tbh.

    Zip

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    Yes, purely on breeding.

    He could well get 6f on good ground, but if he needs it soft, it might stretch his stamina.

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