Captain Dimitrios

[Crepello1957]

Thank you for the link Chris, it made me cry too. Really sorry for you & everyone else connected to him.

[Ten Plus]

Thank you Moehat! You are correct I am very much concerned re horse welfare … and I am also very devoted to racing – I’ve been pointing since being little.
I’ve only just caught up with developments on this thread. I started it in good faith following this which was posted by Lizzie in Memorials:

Captain Dimitrios was only 4 years old and collapsed and died in the stalls at York today. This lovely horse was very special to me and it was devastating to see. Deepest sympathies to his connections.

This suggested to me that she knew the horse and what she was talking about ie he had "collapsed" rather than what had actually happened … and I do accept therefore that I acted upon incorrect info but I was very upset when others pointed out how many races he had had and it looked like he had paid for this by some medical issue rather than a freak accident. I apologise for any upset I have instigated. I admit I do not follow flat racing at all and being a point-to-point/National Hunt enthusiast the mere idea of so many races just doesn’t sit easily with me. I shall watch the video now …

[Ten Plus]

Hi
Another load of rubbish from people who have no idea about horses They are borne to run ,it’s what they do. A training technique used very successfully by a number of trainers Dandy Nicholls, David Evans, Milton Bradley, Ruth Carr to name a few is to run them often and simply turn them out at home instead of training gallops. I would also that humans also manage to run several times in one day when heats are involved so put your bleeding hearts away and stop talking rubbish about things of which you have no knowledge

Yes racehorses are BORN to run but it doesn’t mean that they automatically should do so with such frequency. If it’s so OK why don’t all trainers do this then? Some trainers insist on breaks and running their charges "fresh"? Galloping at full speed so many times at young ages MUST take it’s toll on many horses – I’m sure there are exceptions (we all know of Red Rum … but he was pretty unique) …

[Miss Woodford]

Hi
Another load of rubbish from people who have no idea about horses They are borne to run ,it’s what they do. A training technique used very successfully by a number of trainers Dandy Nicholls, David Evans, Milton Bradley, Ruth Carr to name a few is to run them often and simply turn them out at home instead of training gallops. I would also that humans also manage to run several times in one day when heats are involved so put your bleeding hearts away and stop talking rubbish about things of which you have no knowledge

Yes racehorses are BORN to run but it doesn’t mean that they automatically should do so with such frequency. If it’s so OK why don’t all trainers do this then? Some trainers insist on breaks and running their charges "fresh"? Galloping at full speed so many times at young ages MUST take it’s toll on many horses – I’m sure there are exceptions (we all know of Red Rum … but he was pretty unique) …

http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fam … p?varID=91
http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fam … ?varID=115
http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fam … ?varID=142
http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-fam … ?varID=132

[GodolphinArabian]

Its sad what happened to Captain Dimitrios but the horse must of wanted to race look at

Dvinsky

he has ran in 208 races 34 odd at the end of his 4yo career. running 13 times at the age of 11 and winning 2 of them. winning one of them today in fact.

If a horse wants to run every week.. Why stop them?

I envy those horses

[Peruvian Chief]

I think out of everything on this thread, Chris Beek’s point that people should get their facts straight before posting such things on a pulic forum is the key one. No offence to the opening poster meant, i’m sure he / she would agree.

[Lizzie]

Very upset now that I somehow seem to be getting blamed for posting incorrect information about Captain Dimitrios. I said in my original thread that he’d collapsed and died in the stalls because that’s what I saw. I also explained later in my second posting (after several people assumed that it was due to over-racing) that I had assumed he’d had a heart attack (although I hadn’t said that in my first)because of how he went down and I’d missed the commentary. I also said in my second post that I didn’t know what happened.
I’d at no time intimated that it was anyone’s fault or that it was due to how many times he’d run – some-one else did that because they’d looked up his career history.
It seems some-one made an assumption because of my wording and then it gathered speed.
I’ve been in tears several times this week because Captain Dimitrios died and I’m horrified that somehow I’m seen to have added to his connections misery because people have made assumptions because of my wording.
I won’t risk this again – I loved Captain Dimitrios and am now beating myself up incase i’ve made things worse for all of his connections so I guess this is my last posting.

[moehat]

Lizzie; don’t blame yourself in any way about any of this. It was such a complete freak accident that no one would have surmised that anything other than a heart attack was what had happened, and then one moves on to wonder what caused it. All of us who follow racing get terribly upset when horses die [especially favourite ones] and want everything done to minimise the risk to the horses. Being more of a NH follower I’m constantly beating myself about the head feeling responsible for tragic accidents. I do think perhaps that it may be a good idea to remove this thread completely, but leave the owners tribute to his horse? I’m sure he finds comfort in the knowledge that people such as yourself loved him too.

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