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I’m getting excited now hoping to see Authorized win like a "great" horse. Boy does flat racing need a three year old super horse.
Surprised to see Notnowcato as big a price as he is.
I have a feeling this is not going to be Authorized’s Eclipse. Totally different scenario to Epsom for him today. Notnowcato the value alternative.
I agree with you Reet. NNC is the one to be looking at with Admiralofthefleet good at the odds. I can’t have GW at all and Kinane’s defection says it all.
Absolutely gutted. I really thought Authorized was the real deal. When the hell are we going to get a superstar three year old?
Brilliant ride by Ryan Moore.
Absolutely gutted. I really thought Authorized was the real deal. When the hell are we going to get a superstar three year old?
Why do we need one?
Great ride from Ryan Moore – showed great guts going stand side, as did connections for giving him free reign to do so.
What annoys me is that a group one can have different going conditions on one side to the other. It shouldn’t be like that for any group one race.
No excuses for the favourite though if he was the horse I thought he was he’d have won.
Why do we need one?
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Because its what legends are made of. Racing needs an "all time great" three year old middle distance colt.
Look at what Kauto Star has done for steeplechasing. We need an equivalent on the flat. Year, after year, disappointment.
What annoys me is that a group one can have different going conditions on one side to the other. It shouldn’t be like that for any group one race
Eh?
Are you saying they should have cancelled the race?
Any horse could have gone to the stands side if the jockey chose that.
Jockeyship is a factor in racing and it’s up to the losing jocks to explain what they were thinking today.
Racing needs an “all time great” three year old middle distance colt.
How often do we need one?
Dalakhani & Rock of Gibraltar are two great 3yo’s I can remember in the last 6 years.
Steve
I’m not saying the race should’ve been cancelled. Surely the rail could’ve been moved in so the ground was the same both sides?
It was clear yesterday that the ground was best on that side so i’m very surprised that everyone else stayed on the far side.
Surely the rail could’ve been moved in so the ground was the same both sides?
Which rail?
Maybe if they moved the stand side rail in then it might have been more uniform.
But why do they need to do that?
It’s not like it was a straight course sprint with a draw bias, the opportunities were equal.
Steve
For a group one it sort of defeats the object if the conditions aren’t the same for all. Ok the jockeys had the choice of which side but that shouldn’t come into it for a group one surely?
On another subject did anyone else think Dettori gave Authorized a poor ride? For a horse that gets further he was ridden for speed, I expected him to be far more prominant and kick three out.
it sort of defeats the object if the conditions aren’t the same for all.
They were the same for all.
It was the jockeys who made the decisions.
In what was is this different from every other group 1 where jockeys have to make race-deciding decisions?
Steve
What a race!! My conclusion of the Eclipse:
George Washington DOES stay 10F
Authorized was a good Derby winner
Notnowcato was very much an underrated horse (much to my advantage – see my previous post)
I for one am NOT blaming the riders who didn’t follow Ryan Moore. There’s a fine line between winning and losing, as the winning margin suggests. What he did took courage – if he would have lost by a ShortHead he would have been slated.
This was a truly run race. The two main contenders running stride for stride at the rear of the field ready to pounce. Ryan Moore made a bold, intelligent move and it won his horse the race.
Had he remained with the rest of the field, in my opinion, he would have been third. George Washington ran his race and stayed the trip but Authorized was always in control of that dual.
This race has only enhanced the reputation of Authorized, in my opinion. Had Notnowcato remained on the far side, Authorized would have beat him. Had that been the case, he would have beaten a previous Guineas winner over 10F (to prove he has sufficient speed) and a dual Group 1 winner – both OLDER horses.
Authorized to win the Arc…
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