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    billion
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    It is interesting to read today having given £31 million to aid Pakistan we have now over doubled it with a further £33 million.

    If we as a country are broke how can we continue to be so generous.

    Although I have every sympathy with any country in dire difficulty I believe we could be in danger of going to the well one time too many.

    Is it not better to put our own house in order first and then once this is done then help others from a strong base rather than continuing to pretend to be not what others think we are, a bottomless bucket.

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    Yes – I know where you’re coming from Billion. Although in extreme situations like the floods in Pakistan, I’m pleased that the UK is helping out. We may be broke, but we’re not (yet) impoverished.
    On the larger question of whether the UK (and indeed any country) should give foreign aid, that’s another question. The UK is in great debt (thanks Gordon Brown), and there’s a very good case for believing that countries that get foreign aid become dependent on it, to the detriment of the majority of their population. (But to the benefit of Aid agencies/UN commisiom/charity staff and dishonest state bigwigs.)
    I’d heartily recommend

    Dead Aid

    by Dambisa Moyo to those UK politicians who believe they’re being noble and saintly by chucking millions at 3rd world countries. The author was born in Zambia and worked at large financial institutions in the US and has degrees in economics from Oxford and Harvard. She’s one clever dame and says that foreign aid is counter-productive (to put it mildly).

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    Avatar photoRacing Daily
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    It’s hard to come down one side or the other on an issue like this. There are homeless and impoverished people in the UK too, where is their help? A bowl of soup and a cardboard box doesn’t constitute help in my book.
    Also, where was the aid from Pakistan effort when Gloucestershire and Yorkshire were under water?
    At the same time, they deserve the help more than a country like Greece, who wasn’t forced to adopt the Euro. They saw a pot of gold, and it went pear-shaped. Tough.

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    Why are we giving £31m to Pakistan?

    What about our charities in the UK that struggle to support their cause and have to goto extreme lengths just to get recognized let alone recieve enough to do something about it.

    The British soldiers are fighting for the country to give £31m back out some country and they haven’t got the depth in equipment and support to do their job to the best of their abilities.

    Pathetic, I dont want to sound like a nonce but this country could do with sorting its self before it sells us out to other nations.

    #314094
    billion
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    I really do believe ALL peoples in need require help and assistance but the problem is (as stated) we also need help and must help ourselves first.

    I do not think this is a selfish attitude, more perhaps an honest one.

    If we are europeans then all the help i.m.o. should come via Brussels and that would be fair, I am told very little help has come from other euro countries and that is unfair to us who are trying to sort our own problems.

    Then if anyone wishes to donate to a charity (such as Oxfam etc.) that is their choice and fair to the community as a whole.

    Billy's Outback Shack

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    If you can afford to build a nuclear bomb, you can afford to dig your own people out of the soup.

    Still, I gave a little bit because people are suffering & it’s been quite pleasing to see the UK leading the way then quite agressively asking the rest of the world what they’ve been doing.

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    I don’t believe we are in debt, it’s one big con trick, who lent us the bloody money?

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #314428
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    Now the great British public have had a whip round and donated another huge chunck of their hard earned.

    Not a problem as far as I am concerned, it is given with a good heart and out of choice, unlike the 60+ million taken out of the nations empty coffers.

    Billy's Outback Shack

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