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I thought the programme was pretty typical of what you’d expect.
The guy who has his account(s) closed – He apparently won £10K in one year. Unless I missed it I don’t think the programme explained whether it was with one bookmaker or a number of different ones, I presume the later. That certainly didn’t do the world of bookmaking any favours. What it basically said to anyone with half a brain was “If you win we don’t want you”. As I’ve said previously this is all wrong and something needs to be done about it. Somebody needs to seriously challenge this account closing under the trade descriptions act, failing that the European Court of human rights.
The guy who runs the Coral shop was typically full of bullshit. The young guy who loses all his money on the machines told him right at the start of the programme words to the effect of – You know you see me when I get paid then you probably won’t until next payday I always lose it all. The manager didn’t give a fk. I didn’t see him stopping the guy from using the machines or doing anything at all to stop him wasting his money. So much for caring about gambling addicts. Bookmakers will put up notices to keep the powers that be off their backs and pretend they genuinely care but the proof of the pudding as usual is in the eating. That poor chap had £4 to last him a fortnight. Admittedly he is an adult and responsible for himself but you have to feel sorry for him.
To me he just came across as the type of manager of a bookies I hate, all smarm and falseness when the real face was exposed at the machines when he was teaching the other employee how to sucker people into playing them, should lose their license for that.
That’s the sort of thing double glazing salesman get caught doing on Rogue Traders in an attempt to extract money from prospective customers. Surely Corals have to take disciplinary action against the jobsworth of a manager otherwise they will be seen as condoning that sort of behaviour.
I’m just surprised he didn’t get his face caved in – for wearing a Bradford Bulls jacket in Huddersfield
Am I missing something here, but isn’t the easy solution for people worried about having winning accounts closed just to bet on Betfair? You can get on as much as you like and nobody closes your account?
The “winning punter” seemed a bit staged to me. We never found out if his bet was a winner or not, and anyone can show off their new bathroom and claim winnings from bets paid for it all. Lets face it we have all met bullshit merchants who never seem to lose. Also it seems a coincidence that his account was restricted just when the TV crew happened to be there. Surely if he had been winning the amounts he claimed he would have had accounts restricted and closed long before then?
Am I missing something here, but isn’t the easy solution for people worried about having winning accounts closed just to bet on Betfair? You can get on as much as you like and nobody closes your account?
Apparently Betfair Sportsbook are worse than most bookmakers, as for the exchange, lots of winners will be subject to premium charges, which doesn’t make it viable for backing horses.
Lots of money is being lost to the sport through having bookmakers, they are more interested in Fobt’s than taking a chance on horse racing bets from people who have a semblance of intelligence, they only want guaranteed losers.
I see Coral have just merged with Ladbrokes . An unholy alliance ?
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Quite enjoyed watching and it was much as I expected, though did think that the FOBTs made even more money than was mentioned.
Housing benefit paid directly to the council for his flat and that’s it. £144 every fortnight to pay for everything, food, heat, water, the lot
Sad really because on that benefit he went shopping at Asda, surely there is a Lidl/ALDI where the shop funds stretch better but it was nice to see the young lad got his job later after trying so hard.
If it’s anything like the bank programme on recently it will be as dull as dishwater with people desperately trying to be personalities
You were not far wrong. A pretty awful example of television 2015 ‘style’ – find a background subject and just look for what might be construed as some human interest stories. The sort of thing that used to be confined to the likes of Channel 4 but now it appears some sort of competition as to who can stoop the lowest.
The guy in the flat cap, really knew his stuff and showed the advantages of visiting the paddock before the race.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.Am I the only person who makes jus betting pay who understands and respects why bookies don’t want winners?
And please stop claiming that makes me good for racing!
At least bookies pay a levy – professional punters contribute nothing to racing, they are the biggest parasites of all!
And I speak as one of them myself!
Apart from big meetings Betfair is only ok close to the off if you want a big bet and getting 7.4 about a 6/1 shot is less appealing when there is a 5 per cent charge and it was 10/1 with the books first thing in the morning!
The bookies understandably swerve punters with s talent for getting on the steamers early – you can’t win if them long term.
You just have to box clever, and get I what you can.
Nothing new in this TV show for those who know the industry.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Very good programme giving insight into a cross section of the betting and bookmaking world. The most pleasing element was watching the odds compilers at work in Coral HQ. Even they get suckered by a previous non-trier bolting up at large odds. I can’t believe that they are not aware of the impact disguised ability has on racing generally. The message is do not back favourites on a Saturday.
The Golf Tipster Steve was a prize plonker in his yellow betting top at his computer, he obviously had a problem and was incredibly delusional as to his prowess in winner spotting. Flat cap man was great, his abilities were sensational, with a realistic budget he could be seriously rich. Of course the programme maker could have caught him on a good day but there is no doubting his methods have merit. Apart from the Kenyon report some years ago this was the most watchable programme about racing I have seen. It’s roulette next week for which I have zero interest.…Betfair is only ok close to the off if you want a big bet and getting 7.4 about a 6/1 shot is less appealing when there is a 5 per cent charge ……
Betfair 5% comm on winning accounts !!! what year was that ?
Am I the only person who makes jus betting pay who understands and respects why bookies don’t want winners?
And please stop claiming that makes me good for racing!
At least bookies pay a levy – professional punters contribute nothing to racing, they are the biggest parasites of all!
And I speak as one of them myself!
Apart from big meetings Betfair is only ok close to the off if you want a big bet and getting 7.4 about a 6/1 shot is less appealing when there is a 5 per cent charge and it was 10/1 with the books first thing in the morning!
The bookies understandably swerve punters with s talent for getting on the steamers early – you can’t win if them long term.
You just have to box clever, and get I what you can.
Nothing new in this TV show for those who know the industry.
You’re either deluded/inebriated or possibly both. Call yourself a pro and you’re not even on the premium charge at Betfair.
“At least bookmakers pay a levy” – Who do you think gives them the money in the first place?
Bookmakers have got the sport on it’s knees and will continue to do so.
A Tote/Exchange monopoly is the only hope for both horse racing and punters.
As bookmakers only want to entertain guaranteed losers or punters they can make money off, which punters would be worse off with a monopoly?
Punters are turning away from the sport and their money is being lost to it.I am finding the whole thing condescending and cringeworthy.
It is nothing more than an advertisement for Coral.
The on street bookmaker is doomed .
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>IanDavies wrote:</div>
Am I the only person who makes jus betting pay who understands and respects why bookies don’t want winners?And please stop claiming that makes me good for racing!
At least bookies pay a levy – professional punters contribute nothing to racing, they are the biggest parasites of all!
And I speak as one of them myself!
Apart from big meetings Betfair is only ok close to the off if you want a big bet and getting 7.4 about a 6/1 shot is less appealing when there is a 5 per cent charge and it was 10/1 with the books first thing in the morning!
The bookies understandably swerve punters with s talent for getting on the steamers early – you can’t win if them long term.
You just have to box clever, and get I what you can.
Nothing new in this TV show for those who know the industry.
You’re either deluded/inebriated or possibly both. Call yourself a pro and you’re not even on the premium charge at Betfair.
Watch out Ian, careful what you say. Yeats has a file on all of us.
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