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- September 16, 2010 at 03:17 #16227
Don’t miss this one.Check out the first race on Monday (Sep.13th)at Listowel. John Oxx introduced a really nice 2YO filly named Alanza. Watch it on ATR.Some kind of relative won at Sandown today(15th)named Alazan.
September 16, 2010 at 09:20 #317763
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Bet you like me you had to watch that twice Andy to take it in. She looked to have no chance with two to run and muct have been 12 to 15 lengths behind the leaders when they quickened (or seemed to) She came so quickly and done it so easily the commentator missed it completely until 100 yds from the line.
Well bred filly too who should get a mile as her dam finishing 3rd in the 2000, guineas she looks sure to get a mile and her old man sired that good miler of John Dunlop who won 4 on the trot and ran in Henry’s Guineas. Can’t remember its name

I would imagine she will be heading to Newmarket but no one has her in the betting so far…….The fact she isn’t entered comes as no surprise as it seems to be the way of the world for Arabs with so many horses.
September 16, 2010 at 10:18 #317774Timeform:
ALANZA (Dubai Destination half-sister to 2 fairly useful winners, including 1½m winner Alayan; dam third in 1000 Guineas) won in terrific style, looking a horse with a much bigger future than most who start their careers at this track, and it seems a safe bet that she’ll show herself to be at least useful in due course; she was green and towards the rear for most of the way but suddenly got the hang of things over 2f out and made up at least a dozen lengths from that point, given just 2 slaps with the whip and leading with about 60 yards to go, full of running by the end; 7f/1m should suit her even better.
September 16, 2010 at 11:50 #317792
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A most encouraging debut from a beautifully bred filly, though it wouldn’t do to get too carried away.
We don’t know what she beat. The time was slow, the pace was fast, and the front runners fell in a heap as a result. There was an element of the filly picking up the pieces, and although Des Scarhill said she "came from the clouds" close observation shows steady progress in behind the leading group until the pace collapsed so spectacularly in the last furlong, allowing her to sweep through more or less on the bridle without actually accelerating too much.
Exhilarating to watch though, I agree. Thank you for pointing it out.
September 16, 2010 at 12:05 #317799As a matter of interest, what makes you say that "the time was slow"?
It is about 5 > than Queenie Keen (won off 70: TF rating 84) after weight/wfa at the same trip on the same day, which is not at all bad for a 2-y-o filly maiden.
Seconds-per-furlong throughout the week suggest it should be very much doubted that the 6f 60yd and 7f starts are both exactly where they are said to be on this course.
September 16, 2010 at 12:29 #317806
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8.45s slower than standard, on yielding ground, is certainly not fast. Queenie Keen’s race (almost precisely the same time) was a much less frantic affair, at least visually, so you’d expect the 2yo race to have been comparatively faster.
Even ignoring that (hard to verify) part of the equation, if Queenie Keen ran to her 70, Alanza’s run does indeed equate to an adjusted figure of (+22-5)=87 which is fringe 2yo listed.
Thus, promising but nothing to get carried away with, until we’ve seen her upped in class.
September 16, 2010 at 12:38 #317809Is that standard time the Racing Post’s? You must be mad if you take them seriously in Ireland.
I cannot follow your maths thereafter. A horse winning a 14-runner handicap from a mark of 70 is clearly extremely likely to have exceeded 70 by some way. Alanza carried 12 lb less than Queenie Keen, but wfa points to her being something like 5 lb better given that they recorded near-identical times.
Ultimately, we come to a similar conclusion, that Alanza ran to something in the high-80s, however!
September 16, 2010 at 15:37 #317831
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Yes, we do – many roads lead to Rome!
I was basing my back-of-envelope calculation on official WFA plus actual weights carried. Not sure I’d be putting Queenie up for her performance, given the relatively easy lead she was gifted: possibly she was flattered by the result and she was certainly coming to the end of her tether — but I fancy the Irish Handicapper will take your point of view on board more readily and hike her up!
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