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  • #43804
    clivex
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    I’m not sure O’Neill knows the horse as well as you may think.

    Never!  ;)

    Im sceptical about the ground excuse last time around and just think that the way he emptied indicated something else. It might be stamina but maybe not…

    Whatever his ability, his last run means that i cannot think of backing him next time<br>

    #43806
    DeadlySins
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    I don’t think there would be much that could touch him over 2m4f, I would stick with 3m though, how soon most people have changed there opinion of him surprises me though, he was quite rightly thought of as the real deal before his last race and had never been asked for a serious effort in a race. You have to give the horse another chance just for the fact if he hadn’t been risked on ground the trainer was already worried about he would still be unbeaten. Jack will be back at Cheltenham providing the ground is reasonable enough and I reckon THAT run will soon be forgotten.

    #43808
    Wayward Lad
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    ok if any one here would like to meet me at the "Arkle Statue" and give me 5/2 about Black Jack Ketchum I will personally put £3000 on it, follow you and watch it together if he runs………..and thats serious…..come on boys put your money where your mouth is!!!

    #43812
    Flash
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    My theory is that Black Jack Ketchum doesn’t get three miles in the highest class. Any horse will stay if it is leagues above its rivals and is allowed to do everyhting on the bridle. Dayjur would’ve easily beaten a Blackpool donkey over a mile and a half but put him over that trip against the best and its a different story.

    I don’t know if Black Jack has enough speed for the Champion Hurdle but it wouldn’t surprise me and I think 2 1/2 miles would suit him down to the ground.

    He reminds me of a hurdling version of One Man who ended up winning the Champion Chase after connections repeatedly ran him over trips around three miles.

    #43813
    Aragorn
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    Hopefully the ground comes up no worse than soft and we find out. I hope he is the monster we all thought and O’Neill will know never to run him over three miles on heavy ground..

    I would still like to see him drop back in trip and take on some of the big boys though.. Really if he can’t win the stayers though, he’s definitely not the horse we all thought.. Definitely the weakest of the championship races this year.

    #43815
    properfences
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    I know it’s getting off the point a bit but, reading Aragorn’s comment about the quality of the expected field for the WH, doesn’t it show the folly of the extra day?  WH is being built up in a way it never was previously (when it just supported the Gold Cup) and is generally the race of choice for hurdlers too slow to make an impression in the Champion (or failed chasers).  Hard to get very excited about it, either in terms of quality or as a spectacle.

    #43817
    Wayward Lad
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    So come on you keep talking his is going to get beat….who is going to put there money where their mouth is….come on you magic punters show your worth!!!!!!!

    #43819
    guskennedy
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    Quote: from Wayward Lad on 8:53 pm on Mar. 2, 2007[br]So come on you keep talking his is going to get beat….who is going to put there money where their mouth is….come on you magic punters show your worth!!!!!!!

    You can get about a thousand on BJK at 3.9 and better at the moment on Betfair. You’ll be putting your money where your mouth is and taking that, no doubt. Funnily enough, it’s been there since you first posted on this thread yesterday.

    #43821
    Lovely Lady
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    I wonder if he will actually turn up as rumours afoot all is not well.

    #43822
    guskennedy
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    Black Jack is no longer favourite on Betfair and trades at 5/2 to be placed.

    #43824
    PaulB
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    Theres 5/1 available on Betfair now doesnt look too great that he will even run. I hope if your putting big money on him you would have the sense to wait for the day and see what the ground is like.

    #43826
    davidbrady
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    Celestial Wave now out to 20/1 on BF having been less than half that price earlier today

    #43827
    Markrunj
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    I’m in Bristol and the rain seems to have stopped in this part of the country.  The possibility of some rain overnight on Thursday but nothing else between now and Sunday.  BJK is back into 4/1 on Betfair and will be favourite again on the exchanges by Wednesday.  I reckon it will be good to soft by next Thursday and surely BJK doesn’t become a bad horse after one below par run?…  Unfortunately I’ve backed it ante-post but if I hadn’t I’d have been getting on at 8/1+

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