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The [expletive] wont Pay Barney…..Boycott this thread
With people like you on this forum, I will quite happily boycott this forum.
Gearoid – your comment is still on the thread (which is in the Q&A section of the forum) so I’m not sure what all your fuss is about.
Corm , it is indeed very fair from Betfred to take the time and trouble to answer questions from a racing forum , even if its the best one (or not depending on your hangover )
However the disquiet I am feeling having heard the ;latest allegations and they are just that , about the alleged non payment of bets in relation to a betting coup last year , is rather growing
thanks
Ricky
I appreciate there are a lot of people unhappy about recent events RL. That’s why this is such a good opportunity. There are a couple of Q’s relatiung to B. Curley and I will be putting those to Betfred.
Redrum
Me and Ricky Lake are absoutely right to raise the issue of Betfred non payment of bets. They are getting free publicity for this thread hence the BETFRED IN BOLD part to answer a few questions from some back member of staff.
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I appreciate there are a lot of people unhappy about recent events RL. That’s why this is such a good opportunity. There are a couple of Q’s relatiung to B. Curley and I will be putting those to Betfred.
And, no doubt, you’ll receive the same sort of answer he gives in today’s RP …..
.It’s under investigation
(in Gibraltar for Chrissake)
so we can’t comment
(in Britain – would you believe?).
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Tuesday, 07 June 2011 07:15 Written by Chester Barnes
Imagine having a bet and winning and the bookmakers will not pay you out. Well Betfred are refusing to pay out online bets in a Barney Curley coup. What does it matter if four of the account holders are related to Barney? Betfred say they have bets showing a profit of £823,000 but they would be void under the company rule 10 which states that any person or group of persons acting in an attempt to defraud Betfred.com will have their bets void. I can’t see how these people have broken any laws or is it the bookmakers law, they shall not win?!
Surely when the prices started to tumble they should have got rid of some of their liabilities? It appears to me that someone in their office is not very switched on. Perhaps they should employ Barney Curley, he would sort them out! Betfred are based in Gibralter and it is about time this government stops firms being outside the country.
Hope Barney takes them to court…non british based or not. They clients are british based and can rightfully go to court. Barney sue these guys….and go all out and claim damages to boot as-well as legal costs. If they can buy the tote they can honour the bets.
What is the difference between online and shop based payouts…they payed out from the shops. Is it simply because they are based in Gibraltar. A disgraceful firm
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Ruby,
I have to agree with you, Betfred are a disgraceful firm and if they think they’re going to be winning anyone over because they’ve bought the tote they’re mistaken, in my books anyway.
I’ve had nothing but grief from Betfred services in their shops and it looks like I’m not hte only one.
Regarding the Barney Curley situation I think it’s disgraceful, this "rule 10" is a load of bollocks and just allows them to get out of any bet when they like and can pick and choose when they want to use it.
It wouldn’t surprise me if 25% of their punters online who predominantly bet on the Horses have some form of contact within a yard where they get information, can you explain the difference between a winning bet from that situation to Barney Curleys?
I hope Barney gets paid out, "Defrauding" the company, I didn’t know you could LAY YOUR HORSES ON BETFRED NOW.
I will not participate in an Q&A with them.
The purpose of the Q&A was primarily to create a channel for people to put their concerns/thoughts/queries on the future of the Tote to Betfred.
But, as the Curley issue seems important, I’ve already said I’d send the questions on the Curley affair also. Whether Betfred answer them is up to them as I only asked whether they’d take questions on the Tote acquisition. But I will send them and see what happens.
They’re getting the same ‘publicity’ that would have been given to whoever took over the Tote. I don’t know where people get the notion that this forum favours one (or all) bookmakers in some way baffles me. There’s not a single shred of evidence for that.
The highlighted word ‘BETFRED’ was just to draw attention to the thread as I thought people would be interested in putting questions to them.
Instead of just moaning about how wrong things are RIGITS why not articulate a question you’d like Betfred to answer and post it in the Q&A. Or make some suggestions about how they could improve their service and standing in your eyes and put it to them. Or something, anything, constructive.
Jeez.
The betting industry is the ruining are sport at the moment and while i agree we are being over the top critical, When it comes to a firm not honouring bets and not paying tax on their profits it just results in rage from punters me included
Folks , lets give Corm a break , he is trying damn hard to be fair to all
lets ask the questions , and see what happens
One thing for sure , Barney has a long memory , so I would not be inclined to think it will all go away unresolved ……4shore
Ricky
Can’t say i have any ill feeling towards Corm….just a very negative opinion of bookmakers
Can’t say i have any ill feeling towards Corm….just a very negative opinion of bookmakers
Curley was happy enough to deal with bookmakers in the first place presumably because they have ‘loopholes’ which aren’t available on the Exchanges or through the Tote.
Anyway, bookmakers aren’t going anywhere any time soon so when they agree to answer some questions, the best thing to do is ask some.
Under Betfred, if you place a Tote bet in a shop, will it be settled in less than ten minutes because they aren’t usually?!
Redrum
Me and Ricky Lake are absoutely right to raise the issue of Betfred non payment of bets. They are getting free publicity for this thread hence the BETFRED IN BOLD part to answer a few questions from some back member of staff.
The UK shops have paid out, its Betfred.com based in Gibraltar who are withholding payment.
However I don’t think Betfred will care if this thread is boycotted or not, its only starts to effect them when you stop going into their shops or betting with them online.
My own personal experience with Betfred or Done is poor and as reply to Mr Wilson’s thread on Betfred I rarely go in and even rarer to bet with them. "Done" is a good name for them because you certainly are when betting with them.
However my local bookie is a Tote, which used to be a Mick Dines when I first started betting and I just wonder how the take over will affect it.
I apologies for my outburst, but it seems the are quite a few negatives people on this thread, but I suppose that’s the rich tapestry of life.
However don’t expect any answers on the subject of Barney Curling as its in the hands of the lawers.
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