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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    One of my favourite hurdles of the season this, and usually have a decent go on it…..

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/23/haydock/2021-11-20/795912

    No market as yet, and there’s about a dozen here who really appeal, but I like two in particular……

    Dans Le Vent – Really reliable sort, who rarely runs a bad race. Eyecatching last time, and back up in trip here looks rock solid EW. I’ll probably bet Antepost, but majority will be EW Max places on the day.

    Flight Deck – Really liked the manner of his win at Wetherby. Only won by a short margin, but always in control, and lots to like about his attitude. He’ll surely be better than 133 by the end of the season.

    Dans Le Vent
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    #1567700
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Both of them stand their ground, so happy to have an early bet just now.

    Took 32’s for Dans Le Vent, and happy with that. I want to wait with Flight Deck just now, though the 12’s is tempting. I’ll add Dans Le Vent EW if I see any support

    Edit, added Flight Deck

    Dans Le Vent 32’s
    Flight Deck 12.5’s

    #1567711
    TakeYourTime
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    Maze Runner 6/1. Willie testing the waters

    #1567713
    FinalFurlong91
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    If he’s declared if the cap fits surely has a big chance off 149

    3 miles, hurdles, flat track, gd ground

    Those are his conditions

    #1567793
    Mike007
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    Flight Deck 10-1 ew 4 places

    #1567840
    TheTinMan87
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    The Emmet Mullins runner at the bottom of the weights is a curious one the UK handicapper has taken no chances with on the face of it – only rated 108 in Ireland over hurdles as opposed to 125 in UK – no idea where they’ve got the discrepancy from. He’s only been with Emmet for 3 runs having looked quite exposed over hurdles on the face of it with his previous handler, he’s sent him over fences and won last time out and despite that exposed looking profile he’s only actually been over this sort of distance a handful of times including his win over fences last time. Its not my selection by any means just a very interesting runner and appears to be one the UK handicapper is dodging slightly.

    Looks a good race at first glance lots of lightly raced sorts and a few stepping up in trip too and it has been a stepping stone for the likes of Paisley Park and Sam Spinner in recent years. Will take a proper look nearer Saturday.

    #1568002
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    For some reason i can’t find the bold function on here anymore. However, his backform when with Kevin F O’Donnell (1-24 in ireland) ties in with The Bosses Oscar, Flooring Porter and Streets Of Doyen. Obviously that’s not his most recent form, but we know the small trainer back form > emmett Mullins move has hit them already. Not surprised they’ve hammered him at all.

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    #1568028
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    Is anybody else surprised Orby’s Legend is declared for this? He shows speed rather than stamina to these untrained eyes. He’d have been better off in the Greatwood.

    Hobbs to make me look a fool odds on.

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    165 Martinhal
    158 Brinkley
    157 Storm Arising
    156 Dans Le Vent
    155 Winningiseverything
    155 Riggs

    Fitness the question mark over the top three and Dans Le Vent has yet to prove effectiveness at this trip. Of the other two Winningiseverything 40/1 EW 1/5 odds 1-6 available finished just in front of Riggs last time, but while the latter is amongst the favourites the selection is outsider of the party. He looked a fair novice in 2019 and the wind op seems to have helped him. Tongue-tie applied, which doesn’t inspire, but at the odds he has to be worth a bit of a dig particularly with 6 places.

    #1568068
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    I do like it when your figures chime with my bets, Rob!

    I’ve taken your advice on Winningiseverything EW 1-6 but I also doubt that the Pipes will have left Martinhalshort of work in a big handicap so have him at 25-1 EW 1-5 with BetVictor.

    Keep up the good work!

    #1568075
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    I think the interesting thing is Jack that Emmet entered him in a race like this in the first place and then declared him given how low his Irish mark is, he’d have been miles out of the weights if he only got a small rise over here. I know they have gone for a 7lb claimer so perhaps they do think his UK mark is very harsh after all. Its hard to know based on what he’s done over fences for Emmet Mullins how much if at all he’s improved him as they are only mickey mouse races he’s been in and he had very little to go off over fences for the previous trainer but the lack of exposure over 3M in either discipline at least keeps him interesting for me. Normally if I saw a horse with his profile i.e. 2 wins in 24 starts he’d be the first horse I’d be crossing off.

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    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    I like Bass Rock here. Certainly on the rise. He won quite comfortably over 2m4f in his last two races, with no sign of stopping. I think this distance should suit him.

    Bass Rock 8/1

    #1568108
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    I am a Bass Rock supporter as well. He needs to improve but that looks possible and he did win well at Carlisle. I hope Haydock is not too quick for him but 8/1 with 6 places each way looks like a sporting bet.

    #1568130
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    All over bass rock , most of the trainer’s needed the first run yet he won with ease last time first time out , he,s a cracking e.w price and def think there,s more to come

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

    #1568158
    TheTinMan87
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    Having said all of the above about Emmet Mullins runner I should have checked the market before I bothered, I can’t believe he’s that well fancied in the market, wouldn’t be for me.

    I’ve backed If The Cap Fits back in the cheekpieces and back up to 3M where he was a Grade 1 winner back in the day and Ask Dillon who ran very well in this last year but on ground I don’t think he wants particularly, should be much more at home on todays surface. A lot of the less exposed ones I think on what they have shown want the ground a lot slower than its likely to be with the exception of Orbys Legend who I’m not convinced will stay so I’ve gone for two of the more experienced ones instead both at EW prices with the extra places.

    #1568171
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    It’s two outsiders for me in Brinkley at 28-1 + Winningiseverything at 40-1.

    I will keep Brinkley as a win bet, but Winningiseverything will be ew to 6 places as well

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    Mike007
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    My 2 ew…

    Flight Deck 10-1 ew AP
    Riggs 8-1 ew bog, with the money back offer if not top 4.

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