Betfair Million – waste of time

[Peruvian Chief]

What a load of drivel

KS had six races all season, one of them a hack canter at Ascot. Hardly over-strenuous.

I find it hilarious some posters on here profess to know more about horse recuperation, indeed Paul Nicholls own horses recuperation, than Paul Nicholls.

The (absolutely unsubstantiated) accusations of Clive Smith being "greedy" are outrageous and shameful. I don’t care if you’ve got thirty milleniums "in the game" you can’t chuck crap like that at people.

[davidbrady]

It is a major downside to the Order of Merit that it is encouraging owners to over-run their horses.

We had a similar scenario with Monkerhostin & Royal Shakespeare a few years ago too.

[moehat]

What actually happened to Royal Shakespeare? I was at Kempton on his last appearance and wasn’t aware of him finishing lame or distressed…

[Grasshopper]

Geezus 30 years in the game and I’m deluded You and i must have a chat sometime mate…………..I honestly don’t like or dislike the man but I do care about the horse…he was wrong and he knows it and has more or less said so…if it was not for the Million there is no way on earth they would have run him after what he went through at Chelters…would you have?….that was the deciding factor and if you believe anything else you are very naive……..maybe they convinced themselves in their own minds it wasn’t but for many it was a case of money is the route of all evil…and they gave into it.

Of course Fist, the gaping hole in your theory is that the Betfair Million was already lost by the time Aintree came round.

[rory]

Don’t spoil a good argument Grassy.

[Kalidor]

Of course Fist, the gaping hole in your theory is that the Betfair Million was already lost by the time Aintree came round.

I assume FoF meant that as the BF Million was lost they sent Kauto to Aintree for the OOM title/money?

[Grasshopper]

…if it was not for the Million there is no way on earth they would have run him after what he went through at Chelters….

The phrase "if it were not for the Million" tends to suggest not, Kalidor.

[MCFC Stan]

I think the order of merit has got to be good for racing though I think there are too many races which still allows the best horses to avoid each other. Racing should be about seeing the best horses racing and facing each other on a regular basis not just once a year. No trainer or owner is going to be so short sighted as to risk their animals, espeically somebody like Clive Smith who has invested a lot of money in them and who knows that with a bit of luck can still win plenty of money back form them.
People always throw up Aintree and slag off those that beat there that ran at Cheltenham even though many of them lose to horses that also ran at Cheltenham themselves. Also each horse is different and recovers from their races differently and the trainers tend to know that better than the armchair judges and experts.

[Salselon]

I’m not sure who is trying to make what point, but I for one won’t forget how Paul Nicholls behaved in an effort to win the Trainers Championship that year with Pipe. To say he cares more about his horses tha himself is a little difficult after that ..

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