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    Avatar photoCheltenhamSpecialist
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    Can any Betfair member help with some advice, please.

    I’ve just joined Betfair, the only reason was to take the ludicrous 28-1 on offer for Profound Beauty for The Yorkshire Oaks.
    Am I missing something???? As far as I can see it looks as if I can only have a fiver at that price, £4 at 25-1 and any more at only 10-1?
    Also, I get a free bet to match my first bet up to £25 so it seems stupid not to have the full £25 on the one horse.

    Maybe some wants to lay me odds to £25?
    Or Mary Spring Rice tomorrow night to £25?

    #312412
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    Would wait till tomorrow to back Mary Spring Rice CS – unlikely you’ll be able to get the full £25 on any time before tomorrow morning and doubtful you’d get it on even then given the liquidity on Irish racing is to be blunt very poor.

    If there’s anything you like today would have it on that – the Betfair rules are all Ante-Post too on races like the Yorkshire Oaks so if Profound Beauty doesn’t run you won’t get a refund.

    That’s right regarding the staking – little liquidity on the Ante-Post markets.

    #312414
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    Thanks IS

    Is there a way on Betfair for me to find someone on who is prepared to lay me, lets say 25-1 to £25 Profound Beauty

    #312415
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    If you put up £25 @ 26.0 say and leave it up there then it might get matched bit by bit or by someone wanting to lay the mare for whatever reason but that would be the only way around it.

    Might be worth posting on their "Ante-Post" forum to see if anyone is interested in laying her (after you’ve put your bet up of course).

    #312418
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    Or, if you put the £25 up you might find someone lays all of it half an hour before she’s withdrawn.

    #312420
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    OK I put £25 at 26-1 got matched to £6 odd at 31-1 do I leave the rest up to see what happens?
    Sorry for being such a greenhorn :D

    #312421
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    Or, if you put the £25 up you might find someone lays all of it half an hour before she’s withdrawn.

    There is indeed that risk too Corm.

    #312423
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    Given there’s very little rain forecast up to York next week, and the clerk there is a proper pro, I’d say there’s every chance Profound Beauty won’t run.

    Keep your money. :wink:

    #312425
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    It’s tipping down up here and is supposed to be moving south, anyway even if she doesn’t run its a "free bet" as I get a bet to match for free just for signing up.
    Mrs CS, normally my betting handbrake, wants me to "put the house" on at that sort of price but I’m no fan of Ante Post and I think I’ll be more prudent and wait till the day and go EW, she can’t be out of the 1-2-3

    #312466
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    It’s tipping down up here and is supposed to be moving south, anyway even if she doesn’t run its a "free bet" as I get a bet to match for free just for signing up.
    Mrs CS, normally my betting handbrake, wants me to "put the house" on at that sort of price but I’m no fan of Ante Post and I think I’ll be more prudent and wait till the day and go EW, she can’t be out of the 1-2-3

    No fan of Ante-Post and yet you cant help yourself snaffling fancy prices about a horse that wont even run! :roll: Chelters, Hypocrisy is not a 2yo owned by the "Royal Ascot Racing Club"! :shock:

    #312467
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    No fan of Ante-Post and yet you cant help yourself snaffling fancy prices about a horse that wont even run! :roll: Chelters, Hypocrisy is not a 2yo owned by the "Royal Ascot Racing Club"! :shock:

    It’s a combination of the mare being MrsCS’s favourite horse, silly odds on the Odds Comparison site and the free £25 bet if my first bet loses that tempted me. It wasn’t until I signed up and transferred some cash that I found out the price was only available to spare change.

    If you are so sure she won’t run, why not match what’s left of my bet, perhaps you could make a sentance using the words…..
    Put, money, where, your, is, mouth, your :D

    I know you won’t take offence, none is intended!

    PS Dermot Weld is to me what Dandy Nicholls is to you, I did love Soba though and his missus was a very decent jockey and the combo was red hot in late evening sprints as I recall

    #312470
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    If you are so sure she won’t run, why not match what’s left of my bet, perhaps you could make a sentance using the words…..
    Put, money, where, your, is, mouth, your :D

    I know you won’t take offence, none is intended!

    I do take offence Chelters but only from those who think they know about horseracing but actually know very little,they all know who they are and you are not one of them! Your filly really wants 1m6f and i think she would be a good thing for the Irish St Leger if

    Snow fairy

    Midday

    Sariska

    and

    Dar re mi

    all turn up i"m afraid Profound Beauty will be left toiling,Sorry mate!

    #312474
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    not bad CS, 2 or 3 bites.

    #312476
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    If you are so sure she won’t run, why not match what’s left of my bet, perhaps you could make a sentance using the words…..
    Put, money, where, your, is, mouth, your :D

    I know you won’t take offence, none is intended!

    I do take offence Chelters but only from those who think they know about horseracing but actually know very little,they all know who they are and you are not one of them! Your filly really wants 1m6f and i think she would be a good thing for the Irish St Leger if

    Snow fairy

    Midday

    Sariska

    and

    Dar re mi

    all turn up i"m afraid Profound Beauty will be left toiling,Sorry mate!

    I can see why you think 14f is ideal for, I’d be inclined to agree but she’s very pacey for a stayer and after seeing win from the front last time out over 12 furlongs in a hack canter and a fast time I think 12 furlongs at York, left handed, would be ideal. (OK the opposision wasn’t up to much at Leopardstown but she was far more impressive than Fame And Glory was in a similar grade field)
    The mare isn’t fazed by making her own running if the pace isn’t fast enough and Pat Smullen is the master of piling it on from the front. .
    My only concern would be the going not the opposition, this mare could win The Arc this year, it will not be won by a 3-Y-Old that’s for sure, I’ve been saying all season that they are poor in comparison to recent years, see today’s Racing Post for statistics to back up my opinion.
    Your pal, Dick Turpin in the Juddmonte may be just an exception

    #312477
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    not bad CS, 2 or 3 bites.

    Want to pick up the slack, Barry?

    #312482
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    this mare could win The Arc this year, it will not be won by a 3-Y-Old that’s for sure, I’ve been saying all season that they are poor in comparison to recent years,

    Oh dear Chelters,take it from me

    Workforce

    will fly past Profound beauty if they ran in the Arc! :lol:

    #312486
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    "The Ante-Post King":1lhb4ha7 wrote:

    Oh dear Chelters,take it from me

    Workforce

    will fly past Profound beauty if they ran in the Arc! :lol:

    There was a very valid excuse for her one defeat this year, (well two) I’ve not heard one yet for Workforce’s total capitulation in The KG

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