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Think this could be a serious tool
Would be nice for Azamour to have another decent horse as he’s no longer with us
Godolphin have purchased Best Of Days and they will be hoping he can exceed the exploits of Home Of The Brave, who fell/falls a bit below top class.
He’s an exciting prospect who will probably clash with one or two of Aidan’s here.
In a typical balls up from At The Races, their betting guide, somewhat unbelievably manages to have Idaho favourite for this race. What a bunch of arrogant clowns they are
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I’m all over Lockheed here, especially at the prices 5/1 compared to 11/8 Best of Days. Admittedly Best of Days was very impressive at Sandown but I really liked how Lockheed has been brought along since his debut where I thought he was going to get past Seven Heavens. Does anyone know how well Best of Days’ maiden win is working out compared to Lockheed 2?
I’m all over Lockheed here, especially at the prices 5/1 compared to 11/8 Best of Days. Admittedly Best of Days was very impressive at Sandown but I really liked how Lockheed has been brought along since his debut where I thought he was going to get past Seven Heavens. Does anyone know how well Best of Days’ maiden win is working out compared to Lockheed 2?
Abortist has won since from Best Of Days race and another three or four have run without winning.
Lockheed ran at Goodwood not so long ago so not much chance to judge subsequent performances but the Seven Heavens form is working out well, a few winners have come out of that race. Dettori takes the ride this time.
Lockheed is a nice horse but think he will be up against it here, Hugo Palmer on fire also adds even more confidence to Best of Days.
Incidentally here’s a question- I went down the bookies today and tried to put a bet on Best of days. I asked the cashier that if it gets pulled out do I get my money back? He then rang up H.Q. and they said no you just lose the bet.
This seems rather harsh given that A: they didn’t have an antepost market on the race, and B: I’m only taking S.P. so what possible advantage am I getting?
Does anyone have a better idea of the actual rules about this?
Lockheed is a nice horse but think he will be up against it here, Hugo Palmer on fire also adds even more confidence to Best of Days.
Incidentally here’s a question- I went down the bookies today and tried to put a bet on Best of days. I asked the cashier that if it gets pulled out do I get my money back? He then rang up H.Q. and they said no you just lose the bet.
This seems rather harsh given that A: they didn’t have an antepost market on the race, and B: I’m only taking S.P. so what possible advantage am I getting?
Does anyone have a better idea of the actual rules about this?
Did you do this after the 48 hour decs? If That’s the case they should refund your stake. Which bookmaker is this?
Had it been ante post then fair enough, you lose your stake but not after the 48 hour decs that’s taking the piss.
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
No it doesn’t. Once the 48 hour decs are in ante post ceases to apply. You have a bet on the first day of York now and you will find the rules apply as normal post antepost. You can get NRNB it some places though i.e. William Hill.
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
It’s funny you should say that as I had a problem with that some time ago. I struck two bets on an antepost race without taking a price.
Then the bookies refused to pay up when they were both non-runners. Even though there was no price on the betting slip and no possible advantage I could be gaining. They said that the bet is settled at whatever the price is when I place the bet, rather than S.P. But this sounds like garbage to me and I could have quite possibly claimed the money back if I had taken it further.
Lockheed is a nice horse but think he will be up against it here, Hugo Palmer on fire also adds even more confidence to Best of Days.
Incidentally here’s a question- I went down the bookies today and tried to put a bet on Best of days. I asked the cashier that if it gets pulled out do I get my money back? He then rang up H.Q. and they said no you just lose the bet.
This seems rather harsh given that A: they didn’t have an antepost market on the race, and B: I’m only taking S.P. so what possible advantage am I getting?
Does anyone have a better idea of the actual rules about this?
Did you do this after the 48 hour decs? If That’s the case they should refund your stake. Which bookmaker is this?
Had it been ante post then fair enough, you lose your stake but not after the 48 hour decs that’s taking the piss.
It was about nine in the morning. When’s the 48 hour decs? 11 am?
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
No it doesn’t. Once the 48 hour decs are in ante post ceases to apply. You have a bet on the first day of York now and you will find the rules apply as normal post antepost. You can get NRNB it some places though i.e. William Hill.
Funny you should say that as I thought that too, but apparently according to the cashier I spoke to, the guy on the other end of the line said I should wait until the night before the race before striking a bet
Whole thing is very confusing and I’m sure I’m not the only punter who struggles to understand all of this
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
No it doesn’t. Once the 48 hour decs are in ante post ceases to apply. You have a bet on the first day of York now and you will find the rules apply as normal post antepost. You can get NRNB it some places though i.e. William Hill.
Funny you should say that as I thought that too, but apparently according to the cashier I spoke to, the guy on the other end of the line said I should wait until the night before the race before striking a bet
Whole thing is very confusing and I’m sure I’m not the only punter who struggles to understand all of this
He’s fobbing you off. What firm is this?
If you bet a horse and ante-post is not stipulated on the slip and no price is taken, I’d be astounded if IBAS didn’t find in your favour as an SP bet to which AP rules would not apply.
If you stipulated SP on the bet then by that instruction you are declaring it not to be an antepost bet in that no SP can be returned on a horse which does not start.
Ante-Post ends the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds, then it’s not an ante-post bet and you will get your money back.
Any problems and a quick referral will see the bookie back down.
No it doesn’t. Once the 48 hour decs are in ante post ceases to apply. You have a bet on the first day of York now and you will find the rules apply as normal post antepost. You can get NRNB it some places though i.e. William Hill.
Err?
That is what I was saying. Ante-Post is still in place until tomorrow, ie the day before the race.
If you didn’t take the odds though, it has to be settled at SP.
I worked for ten years as a betting shop manager and that was the standard practice. Of course a bookie may have their own rules but it’s tantamount to theft if taking money off someone for placing a bet early if they didn’t take the odds. People have a right to place a bet early but not want to risk the ante-post odds.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If you bet a horse and ante-post is not stipulated on the slip and no price is taken, I’d be astounded if IBAS didn’t find in your favour as an SP bet to which AP rules would not apply.
If you stipulated SP on the bet then by that instruction you are declaring it not to be an antepost bet in that no SP can be returned on a horse which does not start.
If the horse runs and wins with no odds taken, you can be sure they will settle it at SP if it’s shorter than the ante post odds were. I think we would be in the realms of science fiction if the firm went and awarded the better odds at the time the bet was struck.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If you bet a horse and ante-post is not stipulated on the slip and no price is taken, I’d be astounded if IBAS didn’t find in your favour as an SP bet to which AP rules would not apply.
If you stipulated SP on the bet then by that instruction you are declaring it not to be an antepost bet in that no SP can be returned on a horse which does not start.
That’s what I thought Joe mate, but apparently they make their own rules.
If you bet a horse and ante-post is not stipulated on the slip and no price is taken, I’d be astounded if IBAS didn’t find in your favour as an SP bet to which AP rules would not apply.
If you stipulated SP on the bet then by that instruction you are declaring it not to be an antepost bet in that no SP can be returned on a horse which does not start.
If the horse runs and wins with no odds taken, you can be sure they will settle it at SP if it’s shorter than the ante post odds were. I think we would be in the realms of science fiction if the firm went and awarded the better odds at the time the bet was struck.
That was exactly what I was thinking. Actually I asked a cashier about this a while back, that say if you place a bet on a football team to win a match, or andy murray to win a tennis match, does it matter if you take a price?
For example let’s say I back liverpool at home to beat Chelsea, and at the time the price is 6-4, but they get punted in to evs at the off, am I paid out at the original price or at the time of kickoff price?
She claimed they backdated and paid out at the price when you actually placed the bet, but this I find hard to believe. Problem is the rules on all this are a bit shadowy and hard to understand and I think it’s a another way of deceiving naive punters.
For example a few years back I placed 600 on New Approach to win the Irish derby in a shop, didn’t take a price. When I turned up to try and get my money back after the horse had been declared a non-runner the manager refused to pay out, even though I had asked for a price when I originally placed the bet but they had no Ante-post market on it.
Eventually I did get paid out but had to perform cartwheels to do so. You’re absolutely right Steve it’s tantamount to theft to refuse to give a money back when the punter is gaining no advantage.
Anyway have finally managed to get a bet online on this horse, have backed him 6-4 NRNB, fingers crossed for a successful outcome.
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