Atlantic Jewel

[jose1993]

interesting to read comments about this filly. How would you compare her to So You Think at this stage?

He won a Cox Plate at 3, whereas she would have won the Cox Plate (weaker year, admittedly) easily provided inexperience didn’t beat her.

For ratings, she’s now rated 128+ by Timeform. SYT’s peak on that scale, I believe, is 133. Factor in the sex allowance, which is 2kg/4lbs in Australia, and she’s already up there.

Tom Magnier has indicated she’s not likely to travel to Europe with a comment about those with stallion potential do that, not fillies or mares.

[Ugly Mare]

Comments made earlier, [when comparing her with a certain British trained horse] I think I will regard as ‘fishing’, so best ignored….
also, off topic, there seems to be a few members on this forum with multiple identities – all very strange – just an observation.

…A promising filly so far but no more as yet, and absurd to put in the same backet with others on the world’s stage. She is beating a mediocre bunch, albeit giving some weight but this was a race run at the usual crawl [what was the commentator thinking when he said ”gone at a good tempo”..?] it turned into a 600m dash and she has a sprint finish. 70/1 Rahveel and Dowager Queen – I mean, come on…. these are hardly likely to set the world alight even if either win the Oaks on Thursday, that’s another shockingly poor field in my opinion.

She really doesn’t have to be that good to beat this lot, Streama might give her a race at a mile although she’s also well held on form….

I hope she wins everything that put’s before her, I really do, but she will have to face something more telling than what she has so far – like Black Caviar needs to in this respect…. for some of us here to feel as you do.
I doubt she would have figured in the recent Tenno Sho in Japan the other day for instance, against such battle hardened stalwarts, but perhaps she’ll get an invitation to the Dubai World Cup next March, where, carrying just 52.5 kg she can show us what she’s made of… I doubt it…

…judge a horse by what it’s beating, not solely the manner of it’s success, which I think is what you are guilty of here.

[jose1993]

UM, I respect your posts enormously, but I’m prepared to back my judgement and say she is every bit as good as she looks.

Perhaps in a composed, calm manner after the event, promising is a better word than special, but that is what I think she’ll prove to be, provided she gets the appropriate opportunities. Taking on the wfa horses in Australia at 1400m-2000m in February/March will do for now imo. Dubai Duty Free would be a better option than running on an untested, highly dubious surface, if Kavanagh/Coolmore do look overseas. I suspect from Magnier Jnr’s quotes this is Coolmore’s opportunity to be seen to give back to Australian racing after they were said to have "taken" So You Think in the media hype storm that ensued, stirred up by "Bart."

(It hasn’t gone unnoticed that a week or two after the horse Barakey was first mentioned on this forum that we now have a user named after him, either)

[Ugly Mare]

…thank you, jose. I do hope she proves that good. It is a pity about the injury, but if she must win an Oaks then perhaps the AJC at Randwick next April might do…. but I hope to see her again before then… I wonder how serious the injury is. Anyway, here is a link to the race in question, if anyone is interested:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIvrVyOeiA

From that video, I do like Flemington racecourse, it appears more consumer friendly than Ascot with which it’s often compared I think. I love all those roses along the path then up and over the gateway, it’s quite stunning.

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