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- October 18, 2025 at 10:55 #1742257
You have to go to the Ascot website to find these figures, which suggest that any horse racing against the far side rail, is doomed to defeat.
1m to 3f: Stand side 8.5, Centre 8.1, Far side 7.9. 3f to finish: Stand side 8.4, Centre 8.9, Far side 8.0.
That difference of 8.9 to 8.0 in the last three furlongs, from where the round course joins the straight, is probably worth about half a second, or three lengths on good ground, possibly more.
It suggests to me that horses challenging wide off the turn will be winning the round course races, assuming those figures are accurate.
And that hopefully the jockeys on the straight course will move away from the far rail asap!
Info here : https://www.ascot.com/thegoing
At the Royal meeting, there was never more than a 0.3 difference between the three figures provided.
October 18, 2025 at 15:56 #1742397Not sure what to make of the draw now, Alan.
Were the going numbers wrong?I thought in the Sprint the middle and stand side might be better. But Cicero, Lion and Docklands were all racing towards the rail in the QEII… Albeit not absolutely on the rail, but both Kalpana and Trawlerman were not disadvantaged by doing so either.
However, in the QEII they ALL raced in the third of the track closest to the far side in which the area closer to the rail was (possibly) faster. So was it that the “fastest” – middle and stand side thirds of the track – didn’t come into play because no horse raced on it?
Or is it just where the best pace is?
Value Is EverythingOctober 18, 2025 at 16:02 #1742399Ginge , I’ll save you some time , feck knows , you could run the sprint 10 times and have 10 different winners
Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026
October 18, 2025 at 16:36 #1742425LOL, you’re probably right HDLG.
Value Is EverythingOctober 18, 2025 at 21:49 #1742466Have they installed a poly/turf track , a lot of sand kicking up .
October 19, 2025 at 08:47 #1742482This was the cause of the sand being kicked up:
“Some drainage work, sand slitting was completed on the round course from approx the 1m 4F start to the 4F marker in September.”
As for the way the races turned out, the whole day seemed like a demonstration of chaos theory. I posted those figures because I’d never seen such a wide gap in the readings across the width of the track, and Ascot seemed keen to limit the info getting to the public. The official going report just said the going stick number on the straight was 8.2.
Two races over 1M, the first won from stall one, the second from stall 23 (20 really after the reserves were taken out). No way to explain that that would make any sense!
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