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Sorry, but why is this.. there.. their thing so difficult?
Doesn’t matter,i just wondered
Barry<br>Do you think the race at Fontwell was fixed or not? <br>I know your son thought it was. <br>Along with quite a few of the Fontwell racegoers myself included.
Anyway …………….another little man with a worried look at the moment is Ian Mongan as his name is on Jocks telephone list a lot;)
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<br> TDK<br> If they could,and they did,’stop’ a horse, it still wouldn’t amount to race fixing, not in the Chris Bell sense, anyway.<br> Why do they need to stop a horse, when there are any number of ‘legitimate’ ways to ensure a horse doesn’t perform to its best?
Jilly,<br> You have me bang too rites their.
50K still buys you a padded cell in mongolia with a twelve foot swimming pool parked outside and daft beautiful women to ladle pink topped asses’ milk til they’re stretched and tired of the sight of noodles.
Quiet nights reading Grimm can restore reality :cool:
Reet Hard, if I may say so, you seem to be making the assumption that in order for a horse to be stopped, all the connections are involved. In practice, with organised corruption , it is most probable that the jock has been paid to stop a horse without the trainer/owner knowing about scam.<br>Paul Haig’s article in today’s RP is worth a read imho.<br>richard
It’s good to see this subject is being discussed on this forum. Seems to have been greeted with nothing more than a shrug on the other one.<br>Can I ask on here, as I did there: does anyone know:cool: either "Jock" or his boss? Apart from Seagull that is.<br>
Zorro, you really should get out more, every punter and bookie on the southern circuit(is that how you spell it?) knows Jock, regular face.
There you go then, Barry. I live in the north, and don’t go racing in Britain much anyway because you just meet a lot of riff raff and it’s usually better on TV.<br>Tell us all you know then, please.:cool: <br>
(Edited by Zorro at 12:23 pm on June 23, 2004)
I tried to go oop north once , turned round at Chelmsford, asked somebody the way couldn,t understand them.
Jock is a mad punter that bets every race often with me, cash for cash, backs winners and losers, his bets certainly dont cause me any alarm.
The Red Lancer case is so clear-cut that even Jim The Saviour would struggle to see that it was ‘unfortunate’ that he missed the break having been laid as if victory was out of the question.
No looking for skulduggery there – just using one’s eyes.
I congratulate Haigh on his cleverly written article too, but viewed it from a slightly different rolling angle to the blackballed knight, being tickled almost to death by his quality reference to the Costa Del Brixton and its associating connections. A hackneyed phrase if you like, but one that always travels well. I do like to get out when I read an article, and the thought of all those jockeys whipping free golf balls under a hot spanish eyed sun tenderized me greatly.<br>( I am blackballing TDK for his lack of manners :angry: )
flatcap:kiss:gamble..
:sing: blue spanish eyes, prettiest eyes in all of Mejico
….late night orders from a jockey at Cygnet’s bar in downtown bedidorm
 "fish and chips and chiquitta,"
…".NO change that to double fish and chips…  the shapley slit in the little black number is no way mcracken and we aint paying for no sarsons"
(Edited by gamble at 4:43 pm on June 23, 2004)
Quote: from reet hard on 9:50 am on June 23, 2004[br]<br> TDK<br> If they could,and they did,’stop’ a horse, it still wouldn’t amount to race fixing, not in the Chris Bell sense, anyway.
<br> Why do they need to stop a horse, when there are any number of ‘legitimate’ ways to ensure a horse doesn’t perform to its best?
Jilly,<br> You have me bang too rites their.<br>
lol,i’m not the best speller,use a dikshinery[sometimes] :wink:
This their/there confusion does annoy though,but ,like i said, doesn’t matter… their.
Smithy & Ian , are you two sleeping with each other? If you both feel the game is blatantly crooked and can easily spot "skulduggery" then I suggest you both get out of it – simple! then you could stop moaning like a pair of old women (apologies to old women) ;)
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Ian<br>So it is the losers and the dimwits that are behind all the corruption in racing. Mirror,mirror, on the wall……….?
Ian <br>your last posting was spot on.
<br>anyway the latest news is Jock walked away from Lewes Crown court today after offering an apology to his probation officer /community care officer:o
the racing post and other newspapers are doing a grand job and will in the next few days name even more people and some name of other horses including the Gifford horse that was doped at Plumpton so everything is linked up<br>Basically if you remove the surname from todays front page of the Racing Post and insert the name Brian Wright you will see nothing has really changed.<br>Gary Moore denied banning Mattie Batchelor from his yard but as the prostitute Christian Keeler once said in court ”He is bound to say that isn’t he”<br>This will be my last post on this subject but the story is just about half way through chapter one!
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