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Alan Berry – looking to relive the glory days

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    Glenn
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    The past few years have been trying times for the Cockerham Maestro. Hounded at every turn by over zealous offiicials trying to run him out of the sport (and that’s just the guy with the brainwave of not allowing sub-40 horses to run any more), he’s back and ready to resurrect his career according to a trailer in the RP today.

    For me, the man’s a legend with some notable achievements. He belongs in the Guiness book of records
    – glummest face ever to enter the winner’s enclosure: when Nearly Before Time got the better of Messrs Osbourne and Blockley’s charges
    – only man that I can recall ever sending out a horse listed at the top of the BF market for which the screen was competely wiped on the right hand side before the off (Hillside Girl)

    I’m sure you’ll all join me in welcoming this great man back to the fold. Here’s hoping he can relive past glories by achieving the previous heights of 2003 and actually being able to send a horse to post in a stakes race that is paper favourite!

    Who knows? This time it might occur the day before the BHA sign a new memorandum of understanding with BF that actually works………

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    seabird
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    I’ll remember him for the night when his dad had two horses entered for a meeting and he managed to mistake a 3-y-o filly for an older gelding and saddled the wrong horse for the wrong race.

    Can’t remember the detail but the occasion will never be forgot!! ( I was managing a betting-shop that evening ).

    Colin

    #142225
    Glenn
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    Stop making things up Seabird.

    If a 2yo colt had been passed off as a 3yo filly it couldn’t have run, it’s as simple as that. He would have walked around the pre-parade ring, been checked by the vets, walked round the paddock in front of a record crowd, stewards, owners and trainers and you’re telling me nobody noticed its todger.

    He would have been cantered down to the start on SIS, and he would have been cantering downhill. If a horse obviously has a todger, you’d certainly see it going downhill. Then at the start there’s more vets, horse ambulance, 20 stalls alds, starter, assistant starter, doctor, nurse and God knows how many other people. Somebody would have noticed….

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    MCFC Stan
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    Think he’s a very lucky guy. There had to be something amiss about the horse and for it to be laid so heavily. Think both race fixing cases were more not proven rather than not guilty, admittedly they are one and the same in English law, but…….

    #142338
    seabird
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    Glenn, would i!?!?

    Colin

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    Anonymous
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    #142355
    seabird
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    Thanks, Reet.

    I got a few details wrong but you knew what I meant!!!! :oops: :lol:

    Colin

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    Romney Marsh
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    Most horses ever to start at 200/1 in conditions events (usually on a Sunday) while racking up a nice liitle earner in ‘appearance money’ for himself.

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    Neil Watson
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    Have never rated Alan Berry as a trainer when you consider all the big races that his father trained for example having the Wokingham winner followed by the Cork and Orrey on the same day at Royal Ascot where as Alan is content with a Class5 at Wolverhampton.

    #142426
    bimble
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    Have never rated Alan Berry as a trainer when you consider all the big races that his father trained for example having the Wokingham winner followed by the Cork and Orrey on the same day at Royal Ascot where as Alan is content with a Class5 at Wolverhampton.

    Berry trained Our Little Secret to win a Listed race at Chester in 2007 .
    He had 303 runners on Turf , in 2007 ,winning 19 races . On the AW he
    had 44 runners but no winners .

    David Barker ran Throw The Dice 25 times without achieving a win . On
    his first outing for Berry , after transferring from Barker , he won a handicap
    at Hamilton .

    #142437
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Stop making things up Seabird.

    If a 2yo colt had been passed off as a 3yo filly it couldn’t have run, it’s as simple as that. He would have walked around the pre-parade ring, been checked by the vets, walked round the paddock in front of a record crowd, stewards, owners and trainers and you’re telling me nobody noticed its todger.

    He would have been cantered down to the start on SIS, and he would have been cantering downhill. If a horse obviously has a todger, you’d certainly see it going downhill. Then at the start there’s more vets, horse ambulance, 20 stalls alds, starter, assistant starter, doctor, nurse and God knows how many other people. Somebody would have noticed….

    Seems there was more than one todger at the meeting :lol: Were you there too?

    #142438
    Smithy
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    .

    David Barker ran Throw The Dice 25 times without achieving a win . On
    his first outing for Berry , after transferring from Barker , he won a handicap at Hamilton .

    Not strictly true, bimble. Throw The Dice was beaten on his first two runs for Freddie.

    #142450
    bimble
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    Not strictly true, bimble. Throw The Dice was beaten on his first two runs for Freddie.

    Smithy , I stand corrected and you have now been appointed as my
    proof -reader :D

    David Barker ran Throw The Dice 23 times without achieving a win . On
    his third outing for Berry , after transferring from Barker , he won a
    handicap at Hamilton .

    I was just trying to point out in the interests of fair play that Berry is
    not as incompetent as some have made him out to be although it
    seems unlikely he will equal the achievements of his father .

    Incidentally , Our Little Secret , the best animal in the stable , is owned
    by Jack Berry .

    #142454
    Smithy
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    The exploits of Danetime Lord and Desert Lord would suggest he wasn’t too clever……

    But in the interests of fair play, a few trainers got Desert Lord wrong previously, while he may have just been unlucky that he wasn’t able to pursue a handicap career with Danetime Lord :)

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    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    Most horses ever to start at 200/1 in conditions events (usually on a Sunday) while racking up a nice liitle earner in ‘appearance money’ for himself.

    Yes indeed. It was Four Men that he usually ran in these sort of races, wasn’t it? Robin Bastiman was at least as enterprising with Time for the Clan, Laund View Leona and The Castigator around the same time.

    What I want to know is what’s going to keep finding the odd race over jumps for Berry once the now 13yo Cartmel specialist Peter’s Imp finally retires? Can’t be too far off.

    gc

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    thedarkknight
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    Can’t believe Countrywide Flyer hasn’t got a mention on this thread.

    #142628
    pilgarlic
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    What I want to know is what’s going to keep finding the odd race over jumps for Berry once the now 13yo Cartmel specialist Peter’s Imp finally retires? Can’t be too far off.

    It`s a worry… but as we`re all such fans let`s approach the maestro with a
    view to a TRF syndicate horse. Claiming one of Mary Meek`s might
    work the oracle

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