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During the elections the Dems were talking about involving Iran and Syria in stabalising Iraq. But as these countries are a part of the Axis of Evil, they couldn’t. Suddenly, our Masters have decided that they can talk to them after all .. ! You couldn’t make it up .. <br>:biggrin:
Welcome home LM .. !
Didn’t acctually go on holiday.
I got caught breaking into an old lady’s house to steal all her life long savings so that I could buy some more drugs to feed my addiction.
I got caught and went to prison where I suffered with "cold Turkey".
Never mind though, I just have to wait for my compensation now. I think its £3,000 plus a bit more.
:angry: :angry: :angry:
And I can laugh at you lot while you pay your council tax………….
Its probably going my way…… Oh how I laugh at the honest tax payer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T.B.s human rights .
What ever next?
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(Edited by lollys mate at 7:42 pm on Nov. 14, 2006)
Now I got that off my chest………….
Thanyou for asking Aranalde.
Had a lovely time, weather wasn’t great, bit cloudy some days, but found a golf course to die for.
http://www.golfelchaparral.com/
No fighting gone on since I bin away then?
You know the one. That little piece of litigation that resulted in the hanging of a sovereign head of state by puppet factions of his US occupiers.<br>Was the trial legitimate, or a farce (IYHO)?
My point, mainly, was that the court couldn’t be considered legitimate if the strings were being pulled by the US.<br>The Hague was the better place to try and convict Saddam. What makes Saddam any different to Slobodan Milosovic or Ratko Vladic (sp?)? We didn’t hand them over to the Bosnians, to exact their revenge, did we?
Maybe the trial wasn’t legitimate but the outcome was not a travesty of justice. "He who lives by the sword…" (Unless of course it’s in the UK or EU where the most evil, sadistic and remorseless killer could slaughter and butcher willy-nilly confident that our "justice" system would just lock him up at the taxpayers expense and feed and clothe him for the rest of his days.)
Too simplistic RD.
Milosovic was indicted in May 1999, during the Kosovo War, by the UN’s International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia for crimes against humanity in Kosovo. Charges of violating the laws or customs of war and grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions in Croatia and Bosnia and genocide in Bosnia were added a year and a half after that.
Saddam Hussein was not indicted by the UN for any war crimes and as such this was an Iraqi matter.
What surprises me is that the trial didn’t seem to mention anything about the US involvement in his atrocities.
Why wasn’t Rumsfeld brought up as a witness and asked about his involvement? Or Bush Snr?
Surely, to be consistent, their involvement in the gassing of the Iranians must warrant investigation by the "iraqi sovereign government"?
If the deaths of 5,000 Iraqi civilians is a crime, why is it only a crime if it’s by Saddam?
This whole things reminds me of a film about Robert McNamara where he said that, had the US lost the war against Japan, he believes he would have been tried for – and found guilty of – war crimes for the firebombing of Japanese cities.
However, as the US won, he faced no charges.
And that tells us a lot about "international justice".
Steve
Imo, the trial will just go down in history as another tit-for-tat sectarian murder in Iraq, as the whole country slides deeper into chaos and radicalism.
The contrast of Iraq with Bosnia and Iraq is poor, as Bosnia was in the middle of a genocidal war when we intervened, unlike Iraq, where we actually started it.
The execution has turned into a monumental cock-up.
To allow someone to film it on their mobile phone and have people taunting Saddam with the name of a shi’te leader is beyond belief.
If they were going to go that far, why not just hand over Saddam’s head to some shia militia and let them play football with it while Al Jazeera films them?
Steve
There doesnt seem to be any end to the catalogue of disasters, surrounding Iraq .. perhaps when Bust brings out his new strategy, that he’s busily making up at the minute .. things might get better?
Maybe, he’ll (we’ll) just pull out and then invade again ?
Im not sure we could start another invasion going, we’ve still got Afghanistan and Iraq to sort out.
Its a bit awkward.
Im not sure we could start another invasion going, we’ve still got Afghanistan and Iraq to sort out.
Dave, I think trackside was being ironic.
I think we’re colossally ****
ed in Iraq.The best new strategy the American study could come up with was to work with the Iranians and Syrians.
That’s how bad things are.
Like the Iranians and Syrians are really behind what’s going on in Iraq.
Or, even if they were, they’d just stop because the Americans ask them and allow a pro-US puppet government to control their own backyards.
So, the only "idea" on the table is a non-starter.
Can we pull out and allow the oil supply to be disrupted … or to be sold to the Chinese?
I thought the idea of a war was a bad one when it was first suggested but, looking back, it was even more stupid than I thought.
The idea that, having failed for decades to export democracy to Northern Ireland, we’d create democracy in Iraq in a couple of years was staggeringly naive.
Steve
Most of my comments are tounge in cheek 528 .. irony is allowed, were not Americans, afterall.
From Ian Dale’s blog…
So the Iraq inquiry will be held in private and not report until after the next general election. Way to go, Prime Minister! Just what the country was demanding. Not.
I am also slightly mystified as to why its remit is only to cover events from July 2001. Surely events prior to that are relevant too?
Yep – you sure can rely on Gordon Brown for open, honest government.
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