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June 20, 2006 at 19:21 #2759
"He was a clear cut winner and won very much on merit," said O’Brien. So much so that it had to be pointed out to us.Further woefully amatuerish stewarding.
June 20, 2006 at 19:24 #73195Any other country and he’d have been thrown out, Fallon didn’t even have his whip in the right hand.
June 20, 2006 at 19:49 #73196Irish Fallon switched his whip hand for some reason and caused clear interference. That would have swayed for me if I was a steward.
June 20, 2006 at 19:51 #73197Didn’t see that FSL but it should have been in his left hand, the fact that Peeress had to as good as pulled up would have swung it for me.
June 20, 2006 at 19:52 #73198I think the horse was very lucky to keep the race. I would’ve been very unhappy if I’d backed Court Masterpiece whos run was checked at the just the wrong time.
June 20, 2006 at 21:00 #73199<br>Call me cynical, but I reckon it was deliberate (and no I didn’t have a bet on the race).
Nor am I having a specific dig at Fallon or Coolmore, since I believe this is now a pattern in big races. The jockeys know that the chances of being disqualified are almost zero and are happy to take their chances on a ban in order to win a Group race.
To watch the senior offical responsible for the interpretation of the rules say on BBC – ‘he was an easy winner, so I expect he’ll keep the race’ – leaves me despairing for the state of the game in Britain. Of course he was an easy winner – he put his two closest rivals over the rails!
When my horses run in future, should I instruct the jockeys to get in front and then hang across any rival that tries to pass?
AP
June 20, 2006 at 21:13 #73200Quote: from apracing on 10:00 pm on June 20, 2006[br]
<br>To watch the senior offical responsible for the interpretation of the rules say on BBC – ‘he was an easy winner, so I expect he’ll keep the race’ – leaves me despairing for the state of the game in Britain.
<br>Agree. If that’s his genuine opinion he is clueless. Yes the winner won by a couple of lengths but he gained that in stopping the other two especially the third who’s challenge was stopped just as he was about to draw level.
Gives you no confidence in stewards whatsoever.
Also agree that Fallon knew exactly what he was doing. In saying that you can’t blame him, it’s his job to win races.
June 20, 2006 at 21:19 #73201Jus watched the replay on ATR. How he kept the race is beyond me. Peeress’ backers can feel very agrieved. She was lucky not to have been brought down.
June 20, 2006 at 21:20 #73202It’s really hard to find a median on stewardship anywhere in the world at the minute. In America and France the stewards are very harsh especially in America if u cause any interference at all you are booted out str8 away. One of two bad decisions was Powerscourt in the Arlington Miilion 2 years ago when He won the race by 4 lengths and was booted out. The other bad decision was Mick Channon’s Yasdood in France last year how he lost the race was a disgrace and think the french still havent got over the gold cup winner they had thrown out. Britain and Ireland are too laid back especially in big races, all i want to see is consistency whether its a tin pot race or the derby the rules shud be the same.
June 20, 2006 at 21:21 #73203Quote: from apracing on 10:00 pm on June 20, 2006[br]Call me cynical, but I reckon it was deliberate
Tend to agree AP
The jockeys know that the chances of being disqualified are almost zero and are happy to take their chances on a ban in order to win a Group race.
Correct and it’s not only in Group races where it occurs, it seems to me that jockeys can literally do anything and know the the most they’ll get is a few days ban
It’s time we had Professional stewarding and American rules imo
(Edited by empty wallet at 10:22 pm on June 20, 2006)
June 20, 2006 at 21:44 #73204From a technical point of view, if the horse was running in a straight line why change your whip hand?
June 20, 2006 at 22:00 #73205<br>FSL,
Because you’ve just had a quick look at the thoughtfully placed big screen and spotted that Spencer has switched inside to make his challenge?
AP
June 20, 2006 at 22:09 #73206I’m not a cynic normally AP but I have to agree, he knew he was in trouble and took the necessary steps to hold on to the race.
June 21, 2006 at 07:33 #73207The ban should be amended so that EACH day of the ban MUST have at least one race which is at least at the same level as the race in which the ban was incurred.
In other words, if the ban is incurred in a Gr3 race and a 4 day ban is the norm, then ALL 4 days should be served on days where at least a Gr3 is being run. Arguably, the moratorium on Gr1 days could still stand, unless the ban was incurred on a Gr1 race obviously.
Although at first glance, this looks unworkable because a separate register needs to be kept for every jockey and offence, in practice, it will only affect offences in Pattern races, as there is a class2 race virtually day so it should be business as usual for the lower level races.
June 21, 2006 at 07:33 #73208Would have to agree with the general consensus that he should’ve been chucked out. I was amazed that the result stood and if I had backed Court Masterpiece or Peeress i’d be a bit miffed.
June 21, 2006 at 07:43 #73209Peeress does not come into the equation….he only crossed over on her because he was a half a lenght/lenght up on her and going on. Clearly superior to her on the day, the Spencer horse is slightly tougher but his mount is always going to be a tricky ride as he has to come late and in Spencer he has no better jockey to find trouble.
June 21, 2006 at 07:45 #73210This all happened in the last half furlong…talk of Fallon having time to look up at the big screen in a driving finish, then recognise who the danger was, where that danger was likely to make his move and then decide to manovre the horse across is slightly pie in the sky…
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