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    As mistakes go, it was quite a significant one. Its unpopularity wasn’t difficult to predict for anyone with the slightest amount of political astuteness.

    An entirely self inflicted wound. The reasons given for it were bogus and undermined by the OBR.

    She even laughably claimed there would be a run on the pound without it. Presumably there won’t be now? ;-)

    She’s finished. Her credibility (such as it was) is in shreds. Aside from business confidence being through the floor, she has caused her own party to tank 11% in the polls for no good reason and cost plenty of councillors their jobs.

    Starmer will simply have to sack her at the next reshuffle. His government has no credibility while she remains in post. Of course, he will face the inevitable questions about why he ever appointed her. But it is better to admit you have made a mistake than carry on with a flawed idea.

    Her tone deaf, tin eared speech in the factory (and the priceless reactions of the workers forced to line up behind her) made her a laughing stock and will be a suitable commentary on her tenure.

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    Yes, part of the Uniparty. We have had 28 years of them, now time for real change!

    With whom?

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    Only 28 years?

    We haven ‘t had a left-wing government since 1979!

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    Stand far enough to the right and anything looks left I suppose.

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    Richard88, thank you for your correction
    But wasn’t it a coalition at the time?
    However such a policy should be condemned under any party and I do so here.
    good luck to all

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    As David Frost used to say many years ago, “But she’s doing a grand job…”

    Economy Loses Most Jobs Since Pandemic in Reeves Jobs Tax Blow

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    Nice to see how our distinguished Prime Minister is doing so much to help Mauritius..

    Starmer’s Chagos Surrender Deal to Fund Massive Tax Cuts for Mauritians

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    It does make me laugh when with the increase in people lifespans and decrease in birth rates people can’t see why taxes will have to increase , it’s simple , your going to have to work hard , pay tax and put some decent money into a pension , if you don’t your working till you drop…..

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    Why bother working if you are going to pay so much tax?

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    Paying tax CAS is one of the certainties of life like death , if anyone really believes the nonsense the Farage is spouting about tax cuts then just have a glance back at the Truss government , the world has changed , some of it good , some of it bad , if you bury your head in the sand and don’t prepare then your going to have a hard later life

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    The vilification of tax is one of the biggest successes of the neoliberal agenda.

    Tax is not a four-letter word.

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    Society now expects so many things to be free …. Someone is paying ..

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    It gets to the point where it becomes a disincentive. Why bother working hard or setting up a business if the government is going to take the lion’s share in tax?

    Where are we at now? As HDLG alluded to, a birth rate that is now below replacement level; millions of people off work citing “stress”, “anxiety” and “depression”; anyone in work paying the highest tax burden since the 1950s; and productivity levels through the floor (I wonder why?).

    It will be an achievement to keep the lights on in this country in 10 years. I was going to say anyone young and with any sense of ambition should get the hell out – but the entire western world, in particular the Anglosphere, seems to have a death wish.

    That is before any of the other issues which are causing the social contract to fray are mentioned.

    If anyone thinks they should pay more tax, the Treasury is very happy to accept donations. But I expect the number who take it up on the offer is zero.

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    So many people are on the fiddle nowadays, but when they hit hard times they still expect to be bailed out by the State.

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    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
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    “But I expect the number who take it up on the offer is zero.”

    And you’d be wrong:

    https://patrioticmillionaires.uk/

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    A tiny amount. Most of the super wealthy are sunning themselves in tax havens, or hiring blue chip accountants to reduce their tax liability.

    I wasn’t thinking of the super wealthy anyway. They are a class apart. I was referring to the standard Guardian reading type who trills “I would happily pay more tax to pay for the NHS”. Well, why don’t they? Send a cheque to the Treasury or, if they are on self assessment, overdeclare what they need to pay. I doubt many do.

    There is no getting away from it. Britain is heading for a severe fiscal crisis. When the majority of people are net recipients rather than contributors and over 6 million working age adults are living on benefits, there is only one way it is going to end.

    When it inevitably happens, you can come back and tell me I was right.

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    I think that Guardian readers probably just vote for political parties whose main policy doesn’t seem to be promising tax reduction because they realise that tax reduction means less money for society in general.

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