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  • #1760734
    value31
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    Whenever I meet someone and they are spouting complete baylocks I say, “I can read your mind, I know which newspaper you read.” They say,’No way.” I say, it’s either The Mail or Mail on Sunday.” They believe I have special powers, but of course I don’t.

    If they are spouting baylocks intead of total baylocks, then I tell them they read the Telegraph. It never fails.

    So If you ever need to make sure you are making the right decision about anything then read read these papers’ views and do the EXACT OPPOSITE.

    #1760832
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Not a good look to be compared to the Taliban:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/23/women-banned-from-studying-britain-taliban-afghanistan-sudan

    This Labour government has moved so far to the right on immigration yet seems blissfully oblivious to the fact that it’s haemorrhaging support to the Greens, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and others due to this futile attempt to woo back the closet racists who have deserted Labour and now support Reform.

    #1760834
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    As Jimmy Cricket would say, and there’s more…

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/24/restaurants-raided-britain-version-ice-immigration

    But, according to the RWNJ, this Labour government is “extreme left” or “socialist”.

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    The Guardian getting its knickers in a twist over action from the Home Office that’s been going on for years. These type of ‘raids’ are nowt new.
    One such restaurant a few miles from me has been raided 3 times in last 10 years. Every time they’ve found illegal workers.

    Moving on.

    #1760839
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    Missing the point – as usual – Wilts. A “leftist” government should not be employing the same tactics as RWNJ governments do. This sort of raid should have been abolished when Labour assumed office in 2024.

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    “This sort of raid should have been abolished when Labour assumed office in 2024.”

    Why should these kind of raids be abolished?

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    One such restaurant a few miles from me has been raided 3 times in last 10 years. Every time they’ve found illegal workers.

    Read the article, they didn’t find anyone thus wasting taxpayers’ money and, by very publicly conducting the raids, potentially causing reputational damage to hardworking and law abiding businesses- something I’d have thought you would be against.

    I don’t think a system where anyone can send an anonymous tip and have the heavies sent in is fit for purpose.

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    So, they didnt find anyone; so what!
    These raids happen all the time. Sometimes they find illegal workers, sometimes they dont.
    C’mon keep up, Dickie.

    #1760845
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    Point missed again, if you owned a restaurant that happened to employ people who were a shade other than white would you be happy that I could anonymously call up immigration enforcement and have them turn up on a busy Saturday evening to raid you despite the fact that you and your staff have done nothing wrong?

    #1760880
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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/24/labour-party-lost-white-working-class-voters-greens-gorton-and-denton-analysis

    Just as some of us have been saying. Contrary to what the Tories, Reform and their media chums think, white working class people aren’t simply a bunch of uneducated thickos who will vote for you if you chuck them some immigration related red meat. A good proportion of them are left leaning and will therefore vote for a left wing party when one is presented to them. Still a chance to do something about it Labour but time is marching on, tick tock…

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    So why did the working class who needed a left wing government choose Johnson over Corbyn? Starmer won the election because of the left of centre/right of centre voters who recognise the need to help people less fortunate than themselves.

    #1760912
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    The area in question has long been left leaning.

    Nationally, our ludicrous voting system didn’t help, Corbyn’s Labour got more votes than Starmer’s. Over half the votes in 2019 went to broadly left wing parties.

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    Looks like the ‘assisted dying’ bill is finally biting the dust which in truth should be called assisted suicide.
    The question now becomes will Starmer have the balls to make it official Labour policy?
    Pre election he promised many people things which were not or have not become policy. Didn’t he personally promise Rantzen to legalise killing people? He’s tried to sneak it in the back door as a private members bill which quite rightly has been booted out with so many flaws it just couldn’t stand up the kind of scrutiny such legislation requires and deserves.
    good luck to all

    #1761282
    value31
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    Kid, your sheer ignorance is staggering; with the world in absolute chaos thanks to the USA and Israel starting an illegal war they cannot win, Starmer has better things to do than worry about assisted dying.

    Also you simply don’t understand how Parliament works. There is absolutely no chance of an Assisted Dying Bill being in the next Labour manifesto. What it might do is to allow Parliament to decide. In the former case (which won’t happen) Labour MP’s would have to vote in favour; in the latter case it would be a free vote (no 3 line whip).

    In the latter case, Starmer would not be supporting it, but merely allowing all MP’s to have their say. I hope you understand the difference which is critical.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg54v6p98rjo

    Disappointing news: I thought that Labour would become less authoritarian with the departure of that tit McSweeney, but it appears not.

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    Trying to make predictions about politics is obviously a fool’s errand but I read an article yesterday which floated an intriguing idea. It speculated that if the parliamentary arithmetic after the next general election was favourable, might Labour and the Conservatives form a grand coalition?

    Is the idea so outrageous? Much of their opposition to each other is a performance. What really divides the MPs on the “right” of the Labour Party from their so called opponents in the One Nation wing of the Conservative Party?

    Plenty of Conservatives could easily have served in Tony Blair’s Cabinet. Likewise, a lot of Labour MPs could have done the same in Cameron’s administration.

    The one thing these two parties certainly do have in common is a love of power. They have shared it between them for a century. They have a mutual interest in clinging onto it and seeing off the insurgent parties. Lots of Conservatives have little time for Reform, while lots of Labour MPs have even less time for the Greens (and less still for the Nationalists).

    What the article didn’t mention is there is a sort of precedent. Our nearest neighbour, Ireland, has similarly been dominated by two parties: Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Hardly anyone can say what the difference between them is, other than they were on opposing sides in the Irish Civil War. When Sean Lemass, Taioseach for Fianna Fail in the 1960s, was asked by a foreign journalist to explain the difference between his party and Fine Gael, he replied “We’re in government and they’re not”. He wasn’t joking.

    As with Labour and the Conservatives, FF and FG used to receive a large majority of the vote. They took it in turns to govern, sometimes with a junior coalition partner. However, in recent years their vote share and number of seats in the Dail has plummeted.

    And what did these parties do? A few years ago, when faced with the prospect of losing out on power and money and their cushy little number coming to an end, they decided they were best of friends after all and formed a coalition, with their leaders taking it in turns to be Taoiseach. It kept out an insurgent party (Sinn Fein) and allowed their gravy train to keep on rolling. Trebles all round!

    Maybe the mathematics won’t allow it in 2029. But if it does, I won’t be surprised in the slightest to see the same thing happen here.

    #1761649
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    Can’t see Labour forming any sort of alliance with the rabble that are now in the Conservative Party. When they had Grieve, Ellwood, Clark etc I could understand it but not now. And they always refuse to do any sort of tactical deals with the LibDems at election time ( although I thought the LibDems sensibly kept a low profile at the recent by election). I’m quite happy for the Greens to take on the Jiminy Cricket role in parliament that the LibDems, pre coalition used to take but I don’t like the way Polanski seems to be being lauded as the most powerful politician currently in much the same way that the media have been giving that slot to Farage. Especially as he isn’t even a politician as he wants a London based gig for that. Something he couldn’t obtain from the LibDems.

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