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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/19/uk-reports-record-breaking-surplus-rachel-reeves

    The right wing , never letting the truth get in the way , we had 12 years of Tory stagnation , Kid why did we never get the growth in the FTSE100 like what we have had under Labour ..

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    The economy is still suffering because of Brexit #theelephantintheroomstill

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    “we had 12 years of Tory stagnation”

    Fourteen, mate.

    In fact, the mismanagement of the economy goes all the way back to 1979, when Thatcher became prime minister and imposed the neoliberal agenda on the nation. New Labour (note the fact that they used “New” to differentiate themselves from true Labour) continued the downhill run, and then Cameron and Osborne imposed austerity on the public – making the poor pay for the mistakes of the rich.

    Anyone who still votes Conservative/Reform after the last 45 years is stupid, selfish or both.

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    It is a while since I paid a visit to good old Slugger O’Toole, the Northern Irish political site. This article about Starmer makes plenty of fair points.

    For the avoidance of doubt, the site is left leaning and its below the line comments even more so. Not something that can be dismissed as “right wing”.

    As the End Beckons, Starmer faces his Final Humiliations

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    It’s been even longer since you made a valid point.

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    Even on The Last Leg which has been pretty damning of Starmer since he became PM pointed out that appointing Mandelson was probably because ( and this has always been my opinion of it) you can only fight fire with fire. And I still think not allowing Burnham to stand in that by election was the right decision. He made a commitment to the people of Manchester and imo he should adhere to it. It was his choice to stop being an MP and he wasn’t chosen to be party leader twice.

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    Stop talking sense, moehat: it doesn’t fit the RWNJ agenda. 😉

    It’s funny how the rightwing media were unanimously in favour of the Mandelson appointment at the time but appear to have forgotten that now that they have the opportunity to stick the knife in Starmer.

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    I wasn’t in favour of the decision to appoint Mandelson. Can’t speak for others.

    I believe Burnham would have won the by-election. Polling suggested he would. Not all 4/9 chances win but that was the price Labour were with the bookmakers when it was believed he would be the candidate. It would certainly have been a much closer outcome if he had stood, rather than the somewhat anonymous candidate that did.

    “Obelisk” in Slugger, a long time poster on that site, clearly thinks he would have won as well.

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    “Rightwing media”

    Are you a journalist? 🤔

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    I’m not at all surprised that Starmer is being criticised by left wing commentators, that’s been precisely his problem for the past 18 months. Labour has largely abandoned its left wing base in pursuit of a right that will never vote for it.

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    Once again I have to point out how the economy and the stockmarket are two entirely different things.
    It’s also a strange and historic fact that during periods of rising unemployment the stockmarket rises strongly.
    good luck to all

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyxyr42jzvo

    Currently buried as the fifth most prominent story in the politics section. Nowhere to be seen on the main homepage or the news homepage but there is space to tell us that the sun has come out in spring.

    Compare to the rolling coverage that Reform’s Trump style rallies get. Must be all that left wing bias.

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    Kid if the Tories/Reform were in charge just now we,d be at war … Is that good for the economy ….

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    Kid, you do not seem to understand that unemployment and stockmarkets end up in the same direction; it is just that they operate on a different time zone As unemployment rises stockmarkets go up. Then as unemployment takes effect people spend less and profitabilty declines. The current illegal war will cause a global depression. The stockmarket hasn’t worked it out yet, but will collapse unless Trump backs off. Unlikely!

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    Well chicken nugget man wins his case to stay in UK, I suppose he will take his son out tonight for nugget and chip supper
    You really could not make this up :wacko:

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    came across this last weekend.
    ‘For decades, the institutions that once embodied our nation – Parliament, the civil service, the courts, the police , the BBC, universities, schools, corporate executives, the Church, museums – have drifted away from the public they exist to serve.
    Our country is now in the grip of a new ruling class which sees itself not as custodians of a living nation but as supervisors of a global humanitarian project that has no borders, no limits and no loyalty to the people whose taxes fund their salaries.
    It’s defining ideology is ‘suicidal empathy’ – a deeply twisted worldview that is destroying our country in the name of showing empathy to others.
    Suicidal empathy is when admirable instincts such as compassion are turned to favour outsiders over your own people. It is a belief that moral worth is measured not by defending your country but by demonstrating infinite generosity to the rest of the world, even when this damages your nation and threatens your survival.
    The result is a government without control… borders without meaning… public services without capacity… leaders without courage … and a country without confidence.’
    (extracted from … Suicide Of A Nation)

    This in my view started with Blair and has continued ever since but reaching new heights under the present government.
    good luck to all

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    Well done Kid , even for you that’s utter codswallop

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