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- December 28, 2021 at 13:56 #1575102
A great performance by the winner, but wasn’t that a false start or was the rest caught napping? Throughout the race as well…..
December 28, 2021 at 13:57 #1575104Snap!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"December 28, 2021 at 14:02 #1575108It is a joke. The starter at Chepstow yesterday called a false start when one horse might have got a length start in a 3m 6f chase on heavy ground. But this starter thought it was OK to gift the favourite six lengths start. A farce of a race.
December 28, 2021 at 14:14 #1575114Like I said on the simultaneous thread, I backed the winner but anyone who backed anything else is entitled to be unhappy.
You will never see a better case for starting stalls in Jump racing!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"December 28, 2021 at 14:18 #1575116The starter in Ireland has to make sure that:
a) the WP Mullins hotpot lines up on the inside
b) it is off to a great startNothing more required.
December 28, 2021 at 14:21 #1575117Yeah, should have been called a false start as KD lunged forward just a fraction before the starter dropped his flag, I don’t think it was the jockey specifically trying to poach a lead more a case of the horse wanting to get on with things, I vaguely remember him doing something of a similar nature at the start of the Supreme with Ruby too.
That being said it wasn’t as if he went a mad gallop once he pinched that lead and Flooring Porter quickly reduced the lead so the other jockey’s had time to close the gap but none seemed overly concerned enough to even attempt to close up.
December 28, 2021 at 14:33 #1575120FWIW, ITV just about to debate it.
December 28, 2021 at 14:34 #1575122“I vaguely remember him doing something of a similar nature at the start of the Supreme with Ruby too.”
Yes, he did. Walsh is on RTV today and said the horse caused a false start before the Supreme.
Not totally convinced by the idea of stalls. They can cause their own problems. But the starts in jumps races are an issue and can have a huge influence over the whole race.
December 28, 2021 at 14:38 #1575126Anyone who backed Flooring Porter must be spitting acid.
Will klassical Dream get disqualified?
December 28, 2021 at 14:47 #1575132Can’t have stalls for jump races personally, especially for big field handicaps it just wouldn’t be practical – I don’t think we have enough incidents like this happening for it to be a problem that needs fixing, onus is on the jockeys to be alert and not assume the starter should have called a false start….a play to the whistle sort of thing I guess.
December 28, 2021 at 14:55 #1575136Luke Harvey was really the only one saying it should have been a false start.
The others, I got the general opinion it was ‘one of those things’.
Not sure I would be happy with one of those things, it should be it is or it isn’t, there should be no grey areas in between.
If there’s a doubt, it should have been a false start and that advantage gained should have raised to the starter something wasn’t right.
The other horses were starting back on their heels before they knew it.December 28, 2021 at 15:04 #1575145Agree about play to the whistle.
ITV’s analysis appears to show the starter looking down to press the button the moment Klassical Dream lurches forward. By the time the starter looked up and realised, I assume it was too late to call a false start because he had already pressed the button to release the tape.
Townend knows he got lucky. He seems to be standing up in his irons a few yards after the start and half expecting it to be a no go.
December 28, 2021 at 15:31 #1575159Fair play to the starter. He called a false start in the bumper…
December 28, 2021 at 15:55 #1575171It’s curious how many trainers claim not to have seen a crucial part of a race when controversy surrounds the event. Willie Mullins declared that when this incident occurred he was, “behind a bush or a tree or something”.
I’m assuming he was taking the piss.
December 28, 2021 at 15:57 #1575173Willie “Arsène” Mullins.
December 28, 2021 at 16:08 #1575179Or maybe taking a piss, if he was behind a tree?
December 28, 2021 at 16:15 #1575184Don’t think it made much difference to the rest of the field, who were well adrift, but definitely the winning of the race between the first two; both looked quite formidable, and the rematch will be worth watching
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