The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

A Brave New World For Artificial Surface Racing??????

Home Forums Horse Racing A Brave New World For Artificial Surface Racing??????

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 30 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #24864
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    Arena Racing Company are holding a press conference tomorrow, Wednesday (October 9 at 10.30am), to launch a new era in All-Weather Racing.[/color:31jv9jmo]

    I must admit I find it highly ironic that I, of all people, have received an invitation to this press conference – either that or someone has a very warped sense of humour.

    I would rather have my gonads hacked off with a blunt penknife and no anesthetic, than hear about a “new era” in all weather racing or indeed anything about all weather racing (unless its abolition was being announced – but that’s far too much to hope for).

    Clearly the invite has also been mis-spelt as it should read “a new error in All-weather racing”

    As they are also sending out last minute reminders I can only guess the uptake to attend has not been what they have expected.

    #454132
    Avatar phototbracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1453

    Paul, I look forward to your balanced report on the matter. :lol:

    Personally, I will be exclusively sand betting this winter.

    I won’t be holding out too much optimism to what Arena have planned however!

    #454148
    Avatar photophil walker
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1374

    Maybe they will unveil the new surface on their Good Friday card next year, can’t wait………. :(

    #454151
    Slowly Away
    Participant
    • Total Posts 411

    Will this be the AW Champions Day on Good Friday ?

    I love the AW racing and have done pretty well following it for the last 4 or 5 years.

    It’s conducive to speed figures which can give you an edge if you do your own

    and I love the subtle and not so subtle differences between the four tracks which you can use to narrow down a field by using a filter that not many others are using, ie CD suitability

    #454154
    Avatar phototbracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1453

    Agreed Slowly Away. It is a fantastic betting medium and was just having a similar conversation with someone about course subtleties just now.

    That said, the scrupulous markets are already back in play. Dangerous Age SP11/4J, 10.05 on BFSP, any price you like. I am not complaining as I was taking any price I liked, this will no doubt go unquestioned though.

    #454155
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Total Posts 764

    That said, the scrupulous markets are already back in play. Dangerous Age SP11/4J, 10.05 on BFSP, any price you like. I am not complaining as I was taking any price I liked, this will no doubt go unquestioned though.

    I have no idea what this means, could you please explain?

    #454158
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    Will this be the AW Champions Day on Good Friday ?

    Joking aside, I strongly suspect that to be the purpose of the press conference tomorrow.

    #454160
    Avatar phototbracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1453

    That said, the scrupulous markets are already back in play. Dangerous Age SP11/4J, 10.05 on BFSP, any price you like. I am not complaining as I was taking any price I liked, this will no doubt go unquestioned though.

    I have no idea what this means, could you please explain?

    His SP was 11/4 on the book.

    BFSP was 10.05 (9/1) easy to back.

    #454161
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    • Total Posts 764

    That said, the scrupulous markets are already back in play. Dangerous Age SP11/4J, 10.05 on BFSP, any price you like. I am not complaining as I was taking any price I liked, this will no doubt go unquestioned though.

    I have no idea what this means, could you please explain?

    His SP was 11/4 on the book.

    BFSP was 10.05 (9/1) easy to back.

    Oh that’s a steal! Love getting the cheeky win bets on the outsiders on Betfair.

    Had 250/1 for Alberta’s Run for the Grand National last year! Then again may as well have been a million to one :(

    #454165
    Avatar phototbracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1453

    A steal yes, but not by me. Just bookmakers manipulating SPs to save them a bit of SP liability.

    7/1 6/1 5/1 4/1 7/2 11/4

    Pre off shows, didn’t even show 10/3, 3/1.

    Problem is there is no one at the meetings so no real cash is defining the market. A further call really for why BFSP should be common place ahead of SP. If nothing else the bookmakers can not be trusted to regulate effectively.

    #454176
    Avatar photoaaronizneez
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1751


    I must admit I find it highly ironic that I, of all people, have received an invitation to this press conference – either that or someone has a very warped sense of humour.

    I would rather have my gonads hacked off with a blunt penknife and no anesthetic, than hear about a "new era" in all weather racing or indeed anything about all weather racing (unless its abolition was being announced – but that’s far too much to hope for).

    Clearly the invite has also been mis-spelt as it should read "a new

    error

    in All-weather racing"

    As they are also sending out last minute reminders I can only guess the uptake to attend has not been what they have expected.

    Yet another ridiculous dig at "AW" racing. At least wait and see what the intention is. If it’s low grade racing that you object to then lets do it properly and we can get rid of flat racing at Brighton, Folkestone, Bath, Chepstow etc etc etc. Does the fact that the surface is not your precious green stuff result in a different outcome. Is there still a winner of a horse race at the end of the day. Is the "going" likely to be the same in the morning as it is when racing starts in the afternoon. Do a lot of the top trainers have %20+ of their total runners at "AW" tracks.

    If I was you I would pack the game in, oh hang on a minute as you’ve been telling us for months you are.

    Missing you already

    #454177
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    Yet another ridiculous dig at "AW" racing. At least wait and see what the intention is. If it’s low grade racing that you object to then lets do it properly and we can get rid of flat racing at Brighton, Folkestone, Bath, Chepstow etc etc etc. Does the fact that the surface is not your precious green stuff result in a different outcome. Is there still a winner of a horse race at the end of the day. Is the "going" likely to be the same in the morning as it is when racing starts in the afternoon. Do a lot of the top trainers have %20+ of their total runners at "AW" tracks.

    YES!!!

    Well it took longer than I expected but I knew there would ultimately be a response like this.

    It’s amazing how some people are so far up their own backsides they cannot recognise an ironic post when they see one.

    If I was you I would pack the game in, oh hang on a minute as you’ve been telling us for months you are.

    correct – nice to know you are keeping abreast of what is happening, at least it means you won’t have to post petty responses to my posts for much longer.

    #454209
    Avatar photoaaronizneez
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1751

    Yet another ridiculous dig at "AW" racing. At least wait and see what the intention is. If it’s low grade racing that you object to then lets do it properly and we can get rid of flat racing at Brighton, Folkestone, Bath, Chepstow etc etc etc. Does the fact that the surface is not your precious green stuff result in a different outcome. Is there still a winner of a horse race at the end of the day. Is the "going" likely to be the same in the morning as it is when racing starts in the afternoon. Do a lot of the top trainers have %20+ of their total runners at "AW" tracks.

    YES!!!

    Well it took longer than I expected but I knew there would ultimately be a response like this.

    It’s amazing how some people are so far up their own backsides they cannot recognise an ironic post when they see one.

    :lol:

    Ironic Osterbeast

    If I was you I would pack the game in, oh hang on a minute as you’ve been telling us for months you are.

    correct – nice to know you are keeping abreast of what is happening, at least it means you won’t have to post petty responses to my posts for much longer.

    That’s not petty, below is though

    "You and me been over this ground
    Over this ground before
    I can’t explain
    I can’t explain
    I can’t explain anymore
    Oh it’s hard to watch you go"

    #454244
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    It looks as though a BHA press release has per-empted the ARC press conference as it has confirmed a £1m fixture at Lingfield on Good Friday.

    It will be interesting to see the structure of this race day and despite any concerns one may have about artificial surface racing such an investment can only be applauded.

    I know I am no great fan of AS racing and I do jokingly say it should be abolished, I do accept it has its place in the sport, although I would still want to see it restricted to a clearly defined season during the winter months where it is a potential backup where there is inclement weather.

    Whilst welcoming the cash injection I would like to see the Good Friday finalé as exactly that with AS racing then restarting in November, giving a defined season.

    Lest I am accused of too much bias against AS racing I would also like to see a mid-summer break in National Hunt racing of between 8-12 weeks and I would like to see the turf flat season finish with British Champions Day.

    Each of the three codes should have clearly defines seasons and should not be year round – just my opinion of course.

    #454267
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    Details of the Championship


    The All-Weather Championships will launch on 26th October, 2013 at Wolverhampton and climax at Lingfield Park on Friday 18th April 2014. It will comprise of six different categories for 3 Year Olds, Fillies and Mares, Marathon, Sprint, Mile and Middle Distance horses. The races will take place at all of the UK’s All-Weather tracks at Lingfield Park, Wolverhampton and Southwell Racecourses and The Jockey Club’s Kempton Park Racecourse.

    The 6 Championship categories will provide a category to test every horse, jockey and trainer. In order to qualify for a Championship Race, a horse has to have run a minimum of three times on the All-Weather tracks in the qualifying period or win 1 of the 3 ‘Win & You’re In’ qualifiers in each category that will be scheduled. The final race of each category will take place on All-Weather Championships Finals Day, offering the richest All-Weather raceday in Europe.

    3 YEAR OLD CATEGORY

    The All-Weather Colts, Fillies & Geldings Championships comprises every 2 Year Old race run in 2013 and every 3 Year Old race run in 2014 on the All-Weather tracks over the qualifying period. The category culminates with a Final Race on Championships Finals Day, over 7 Furlongs (1400 meters). With prize money of £150,000, it is the UK’s richest 3 Year Old All-Weather race.

    SPRINT CATEGORY

    For horseracing’s All-Weather speed merchants, the All-Weather Championships Sprint category aims to find the best 4yo+ All-Weather Sprinter in Britain. The Championship Sprint Final will take place over 6 furlongs (1200 meters). With prize money of £150,000, it is the UK’s richest All-Weather Sprint race.

    MILE CATEGORY

    The Mile category aims to find Britain’s best All-Weather Milers with a Championship Final over 8 furlongs (1,600 metres). With prize money of £150,000, it is the UK’s richest All-Weather Mile race.

    MARATHON CATEGORY

    With races ranging in distance from 13 furlongs (2,600 metres) to 16 furlongs (2 miles or 3,200 metres), the Marathon category aims to find the best All-Weather ‘Stayer’ with a Final race on Championship Finals Day, over 16 furlongs (3,200 meters). With prize money of £150,000, it is the UK’s richest All-Weather Marathon race.

    FILLIES & MARES CATEGORY

    The Fillies & Mares All-Weather category comprises every race on the All-Weather tracks over the season confined to Fillies & Mares, with a Final Race on Championships Finals Day over 7 furlongs (1,400 meters) and prize money of £150,000, it is the UK’s richest Filly & Mare All-Weather race.

    MIDDLE DISTANCE CATEGORY

    With races ranging in distance from 10 furlongs (2,000 meters) to 12 furlongs (2,400 metres), the Middle Distance category comprises all Middle Distance races during the qualifying period, with a Final race on All-Weather Championships Finals Day over 11 furlongs (2,200 meters) and with prize money of £200,000, it is the UK’s richest All-Weather Race.

    There are 208 fixtures at the four All-Weather tracks at Lingfield Park, Southwell and Wolverhampton Racecourses and The Jockey Club’s Kempton Park Racecourse, all of which count towards qualifying towards the All-Weather Championships. All four tracks will host specific ‘Win and You’re in’ qualifiers.

    All-Weather Championships Finals Day will see a Total Prize Fund of £1.0m on offer making it the richest All-Weather card ever staged in Europe. Finals Day will take place on Good Friday 18th April, 2014.

    A dedicated website http://www.awchampionships.co.uk has been launched to allow the leading contenders to be followed throughout the season. Media Partners AtTheRaces will report closely on the Championships and the leading contenders as it builds towards Championships Finals Day.

    ENDS

    Here is a link to the All Weather Championships web-site

    http://www.awchampionships.co.uk/

    #454275
    % MAN
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5104

    One line made me really smile this morning.

    and whose fault is that in the first place?

    Is it not the poor prize money from ARC, or as it was Arena, which led to the reputation.

    #454281
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6337

    One line made me really smile this morning.

    and whose fault is that in the first place?

    Is it not the poor prize money from ARC, or as it was Arena, which led to the reputation.

    Did Michael mention who he thought the Ugly Sisters were?

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 30 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.