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Good day’s racing, just a pity that the horses and the spectacle come second to plugging the high st bookies and ‘the’ exchangeJust a pity all the good ones are running like drains
Now I know why I gave up this lark, I just wish my father in law would stop with the Yankees and asking if I ‘want half of it’
Trafalgar Road and Sarando so far, my other half’s old hack could run a better race …not forgetting that rotten winner of the Rowland Meyrick at Wetherby, can’t believe it won even now.
not forgetting that rotten winner of the Rowland Meyrick at Wetherby, can’t believe it won even now.
Yeah, shocking stuff. Not taking away from the favs and Kauto (great horse, first class!) at Kempton, but if you spent life backing in 5-7 runner races Evs and 3s the field you would go broke. Elsewhere, where you would expect there to be value, there just aint. What looks like value finishes out the back well beaten
You haven’t got a good word to say about racing RD – the game’s gone, the horse’s don’t run on their merits,etc.
But yet you still have a bet?
33/1 not "value" enough for you RD?
Sarando fell last time out. Any faller can lose its confidence next time.
Any lightly raced horse like Trafalgar Road may not keep its form for very long.
Value Is Everything33/1 not "value" enough for you RD?
You think a horse that not won a race for 3 yrs and out of the handicap is good value?
You were the one saying you should not back Even money and 3/1 shots because they aren’t (according to you) "value" RD.
I didn’t work the Rowland M out. But if you look far enough back in the form book; even with being out of the handicap AccTPete could be considered well handicapped.
Value Is EverythingYou haven’t got a good word to say about racing RD – the game’s gone, the horse’s don’t run on their merits,etc.
But yet you still have a bet?
I dont bet on my own, never do, but my father in law bets and asked if I wanted a piece of his bet. He is a technophobe and he phones me up to place his bet online. To be sporting at Christmas, I agreed.
No, I don’t have a good word to say about a card full of veiled ads for High Street bookies and fodder where half the field isnt at the races. I would suggest you take a good look at racing in the UK ala 2011 Ginger, a close look. It ain’t pretty. No amount of Kauto Stars and Denmans can clean the stink of fancied runners being sent off like a march hare to use them up early on, and runners being there just for a blow out.
The only races today worth a damn were at Kempton, where the bookies made sure there was no value. Even if a person thought 8s was good value about Captain Chris, whats the point of backing each way in a seven runner race where the best he was going to achieve was 3rd? Same with the other graded races on the card, 5run, 6run, 5run, 7run, its stupid. It was the short priced fav, the bad value 2nd fav, or nothing.
I want racing to step back twenty years, to a time before they commercialised it, labelled it and stacked it on a shelf with a BOGOF sticker on it. I can handle coups, as long as the whole field wants it. Most times though, its more viable to back your horse to lose when the prize money is a god forsaken £2,599 to the winner.Couldn’t be your fault for backing the wrong horses could it RD?
What is the definition of a mug punter?
Value Is EverythingOn a brilliant day for racing, you had to find fault RD.
Don’t know why you bother, you clearly hate racing and will blame everyone else for your failings.
Give it a rest.
Value Is EverythingMate you haven’t got the faintest idea what you are talking about.
If trainers listened to people like you and din’t give horses runs for experience or a blow out most of them wouldn’t last 2 seasons.
The horse comes 1st you come 51st learn to live with it or get out the kitchen is the best advice I can give you.
Those trainers who get up to a little bit of jiggery pokery are part and parcel of the game they always have been and always will be. Ok it’s unfair to the punter but if it wasn’t for the odd touch there would be far less racing and the game would struggle even more.
Backing horses is a gamble and many many trainers like to punt and beat the bookie. They don’t usually try and do that until the odds are in their favour. That’s acceptable to me and to most seasoned punters we expect to back non triers or horses short of a gallop now and then but most of the time we know which horses not to back through experience. It’s no big deal when the odd gamble is landed either nothing stopping anyone who wants to joining in when it becomes blatantly obvious they are having a go.
I love the game and I can’t be bothered with people who whinge about the game and still bet. It’s gambling plain and simple and no one forces anyone to bet. Those of us that do would love to land a touch so most of us don’t criticise when someone else does.
I’d love you to name a professional sport that isn’t sponsored by someone and of course uyou are going to see adverts all over for bookie firms. Why the hell not?
The Sportinglife website provide free form guides news and video replays etc and it is totally free because they are sponsored by bookies and various other firms. We’d be paying through the nose otherwise.
You say you want to step back 20 years ? Mate you’re already 20 years behind the times with your attitude.
I can’t understand why you post on the forum if you dislike the sport so much. I am actually not sure you understnd racing and betting much by your posts. There is plenty of value to be had if you look around and are selective. You don’t have to bet every day and in every race. I think your comment about Captain Chris sums it up. If you don’t see the point of betting it then don’t. Just wait for another horse on another day. Of course you wouldn’t bet it EW in a seven runner race if you only thought it would come third. You wouldn’t even bet it EW in an eight runner race EW if you only thought it could come third. You would only bet it if the 8/1 was better odds than it should be to win the race.
I think you have to use your loaf a bit in this game, but also know what you like. I knew today’s racing was going to be good but it was obviously going to be a favourite-heavy results card. I knew Tetlami was going to win (I went through the card a couple of days ago) but I also knew that I couldn’t back it because it was too short for my taste.
So I rolled it in with Silviniaco Conti and Rock On Ruby. You win some. . .Main thing is that some races/cards scream value for those of us who like a price. Today was never going to be that. I am fully aware that if a horse is 2/1 and he should be 1/2 then that’s value but I’m a peasant: even 7/2 is kind of depressing. But it’s not a conspiracy: if you don’t like it then don’t make a wager. Tomorrow’s another day.
I have a rule (which I don’t always abide by…): don’t bother betting in races where the first prize is less than about six grand, because you’ll find yourself losing far more often than winning. This is as sure as death and taxes.
Not you Ginger the dunderhead who’s doing all the moaning
Mate, if you want someone who is going to come on here and tell you how rosy the game is and blow soap bubbles all over Kauto’s win that isn’t me.
You are talking to someone who has been following this game since the age of 7, i’m 46 now. Kauto winning was great, as a follower it gave me joy to see it. But from a betting perspective, the game is a loaded dice. Kauto’s race is probably the straightest you will see between now and March. And from a purists pov, it has no soul any more. Just look at what they are doing to the National. They are ******g it up. Jocks not allowed to try, schooling in public routinely overlooked, handicap marks acquired by more than dubious means, 150% books, even the BBC has abandoned the sport apart from the 2hrs of hidden away BBC2 coverage today. Id hide Wilshire and Parrott away too. Im not going to sit here and tell myself I like what’s happening to the sport i’ve followed all my life, even if that is what you would like to hear. Sorry.BTW, back on thread, all of todays racing is ‘powered by’ Coral, William Hill, Tote and Paddy Power
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